Click below to hear stories and testimonies of how the Lord has been working in and through our First Naples Family. I know that for those with kids this can be tough but if you think things will get better just remember, you cant fight city hall. Naples, FL, 34109 Customers Love Us "Great experience! Multiple sources claiming to be from FBC Naples have reached out to Pulpit & Pen and Reformation Charlotte and we are currently assessing the accounts of these individual. These included a lack of transparency at the church, absence of vetted elders, and the public maligning of former longtime pastor, Hayes Wicker. hating even the garment polluted by the flesh (Jude 23). Toward that end, the site requires that people use their full name when commenting. Publisher Log-in And second, Mr. Hayes did nothing to convince me that he would embrace me as a disgraced member of the church. (Hayes this month took his first senior pastor position at a church in Texas.). So sick of this hate and evil which is exactly what this all is. The church by-laws allow for the expulsion of members without consulting the entire church body. For the church's leadership, "it exposed a sickness in what we characterize as a cancer within our fellowship," he continued in the letter, which also asked for forgiveness from Hayes and his wife and "any other person who has been offended, hurt, or damaged by the outcome" of the vote. MLKs dream was about us all being seen as equal in VALUE and treated accordingly, regardless of our differences. He friended, then de-friended and blocked my wife on social media. The decision to excommunicate us 48 hours after a failed vote, without ANY confrontation, was nothing more than a knee jerk reaction to make people pay and to establish a scapegoat. This is nothing new. (Auxanos founder, Will Mancini, also serves as director of consulting for Lifeway, the publishing division of the SBC.). @DooWopCokeFan Please try to understand something: NOT ALL BLACK PEOPLE THINK ALIKE. God has done great things among us and we believe that greater things are yet to come! Your Connection Portal. I think there were people in the church who were afraid of having a black pastor, especially one who does not subscribe to the ridiculous and ungodly notion of colorblindness and one who holds the racial views that Hayes does. You may recall this line from his I have a dream speech: I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character. I believe Dr. King was right. The process did not adhere to or reflect any biblical model. It was appalling and heartbreaking to witness. This ban prevented him from seeing his granddaughter perform in a play being put on at the churchs school, First Baptist Academy. Exactly right. One Denomination that claims to hold the Christian faith to avoid is the Southern Baptist Churces and their affiliations. Im not sure where they are located now, nor what they are doing, but I feel confident God is using them in His way. While methods may change, our commitment to Biblical doctrine is a non-negotiable. We are simultaneously soldiers, commissioned to wage war for the defense and dissemination of the truth in the face of countless onslaughts against it. However, leaked Soon, one way or another there will be a woke pastor in the pulpit of FBCN. Any copyrighted material displayed or referenced is done under the doctrine of fair use. Roku Live Streaming, Copyright 2023 ITP Productions, Inc. dba ChristianWorldMedia.com, All Rights Reserved, Welcome to First Naples! (The video is now private and requires a password to view.). They make me want to Puke profusely second only to Calvary Chapel. 11,847 were here. If you promote that, take a LONG look in the mirror. Well Hello!!! Find a local church Explore; Giving; App; Sign In; Find a Church; Florida; Naples, FL It is time for the SBC to do what they should have done first, before concluding who was right: Shine the light, Brothers, shine the light in here. We know this because of the campaign that started just days before by a few disgruntled people in our church.. Wickers hopes for a smooth transition have been dashed. Bunch of old white guys with too much time on their hands and too many books in their personal theology libraries. First Baptist Naples is, ethnically, a predominantly white church but we are not a racist church.. Jonathan Head November 26, 2011. JUST STOP THE HATE. pastoral staff has publicly accused church members who did not approve of Marcus When that man runs out of money before completion what is everyone going to say? But I dont see how the spirit of God can move among those people, unless they are willing to understand what has happened and admit that what they have done is absolutely atrocious, ungodly, unjust, and even in violation of their own bylaws.. To find sermons, announcements, and other resources, click on the link below. The church did not hold a reception to honor Wickers decades of ministry, nor was Wicker permitted to address the congregation. Hundreds of members have left the church. Is not the sheer stupidity of this self-evident? The shooting drew national headlines, outrage and questions about whether race factored into the officers decision to open fire. Wicker said several weeks later, the church emailed him, stating that Wicker had facilitated and cooperated with a rival faction in the church, which voided his exit agreement. Quite the contrary the creedal history of the church was arguably constructed to exclude precisely the kind of views that were being espoused. More Emails: FBC Naples Concerned Party Defends Itself Against Accusations of Racism, VIDEO: A look at the problems at FBC Naples, FBC Naples Insider Speaks Out About Alleged Racism and Unbiblical Excommunications at FBC Naples, Leaked Emails Show That FBC Naples Members Had Serious Concerns About Marcus Hayes Biblical Qualifications. It seems rather patronizing to minorities to assert that every minority persons ideas must be legitimate because the propounder is of a certain colour. Wicker called the allegations appalling., We reached out to Boone, specifically asking about the allegations mentioned in the video, but he did not respond. I just wish so many from my former church would open their eyes and see whats going on. The church also launched a schoolFirst Baptist Academy. 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"There are no terms to describe what has happened here other than sin. Garippa, who was never part of Concerned Members of FBCN, declined to comment on why he left FBC Naples. And on December 31, Wicker said the health insurance provided by the church was cut off for him and his wife, who has a serious heart condition. Interesting. So for now we will go to Tampa & enjoy Church there, as no wish to be seen to support incompetence. There is no room in our Gospel for racism, none whatsoever. They released a statement to the church family blaming racism for the rejection of Marcus Hayes. The refusal to release specific documents to any donating member, also a violation of not only the by-laws (which was the same verbiage as the state law) but also the state of Florida Not-for-profit Compliance Act and the IRS which governs their 501(c)(3) status. Jesus said that He wants us to all be in unity and that He is building a church. action has been taken to enact church discipline on the dissenters because of Concerned Members of FBCN says the petition received 800 signatures. Following worship services on December 7 and 8, receptions were held to honor Edies six years at the church. Im too far away to comment on the specific allegations, but whatever the truth of each, its pretty clear that youve got at least two strong factions in church leadership, and possibly also the church as a whole, which need to have a come to Jesus moment in terms of this is how you do, and this is how you do not do, ministry., The utter disrespect shown previous Pastor Wicker is atrocious and unchristian to say the least. **Statements about the actions taken by FBC Naples leadership assume the fidelity of Pulpit & Pens inside source. Check the upcoming First Baptist Church - Naples schedule for concerts, shows, and events in 2023-2024 to find the best tickets for all events at First Baptist Church - Naples. Those involved either need to find a way to recover from this, not just cover it up, or decide to step aside for the greater good. We need to see people as fellow human beings made in the image of God. Why did the church leadership behave in such an aggressive and dismissive manner? Naples, FL 34109 (239) 597-2233. ", "While racial issues were brought into play, and horrifically there indeed were some who did not approve Rev. This happened just three days after the church vote concerning Marcus Hayes. Sad state of affairs. Our leadership has gone astray, I fear, and those who find the courage to stand up to them have targets on their backs. The views expressed in any video or live stream presented on our website may not necessarily be the views of the CWM owners and staff. Have attended a lot of Southern Baptist Churches. Come see the Living Christmas Trees. I have no hate here. Also concerning to the group was the fact that Marcus Hayes didnt respond to a letter Concerned Members of FBCN had sent him a week earlier, outlining their issues at the church. Church leaders have alleged that race played a role in the failed vote to affirm Hayes, causing a firestorm of heated discussion on social media and spawning posts by religious websites and blogs. "First Baptist Church Naples is doing excellent work through disaster relief," said Wayne Briant, southwest regional catalyst for the Florida Baptist Convention. Other parts of the email laid out concerns the group had with Hayes' tweets about books that deal with race and religion and questioned whether he had the necessary experience to take the post as senior pastor. Find more information about the groups that meet throughout the week by clicking below. A portion of the 19% that voted against Marcus Hayes did so based on racial prejudices. Well-sourced. Coffee. The whole clergy-laity distinction, senior pastor, associate pastor, the professional, or called into the ministry Christians is not found ANYWHERE in the New Testament.NO WHERE! Per the church's constitution and bylaws, a senior pastor must be affirmed by a margin of at least 85% of the vote, but Hayes only garnered 81%of the vote, with 1,552 "yes" votes compared to 365 "no" votes. The day after excommunicating the 18 members, FBC Naples lay leadership and pastoral staff sent an open letter to the SBC, accusing some who didnt vote for Hayes, whos a member of the SBC Executive Committee, of racism. @Bernie Lutchman you are so correct. Racial prejudice a factor in rejection of black pastor, read the headline of a piece published in the Baptist Standard. Find Best Western Hotels & Resorts nearby Sponsored. We are frankly disappointed that no resolution is making it impossible as at now for all the lovely folks within Naples to move forward. Click on the link below to see how you can use your gifts and talents for the Kingdom, from Naples to the nations! After Marcus Hayes failed to receive the necessary 85 percent affirmative vote to install him as pastor, the leadership of First Baptist Church Naples, including the church staff, launched a pogrom against dissenters. First Baptist Church has had problems for years. God used their faithfulness and devotion to create a mighty ministry through FBCN. And we are soldierscharged with pulling down ideological strongholds and casting down the lies and deception spawned by the forces of evil (2 Corinthians 10:35; 2 Timothy 2:34). Specialties: First Baptist Church Naples is a church family that is unified on several basic theological understandings, which are based in our understanding of God's Word. At the time, Wicker seemed to be well-respected by his church and denomination. Just a couple of points for you to consider. "To our knowledge, he has never handleda multi-million-dollar budget, building programs, fundraising and/or staffing issues as required by a Senior Pastor," the group wrote. Isnt that how we should judge any one persons claims, by how it squares with Scripture on a case-by-case basis? Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. Church leadership responded in an email to members, calling the Voices of FBCNs email inaccurate and slanderous and claiming that a security breach of the churchs email list had occurred. We reached out to Phillips Harvey Group and FBC Naples to confirm, but they did not respond. You obviously didnt pay attention to everything in that article, only the points you chose to focus on on. He didnt have the experience. The churchs The church leadership released a statement explaining how the church membership wasnt supposed to vote their conscience, but rather rubberstamp the search committees recommendation: As most of you know, in Southern Baptist life,when a Senior Pastor comes in view of a call by the recommendation of a Search Committee, the actual vote is most always viewed as a ceremonial and celebratory affirmation of the Spirits leading within the hearts and minds of the Search Committee that has extended the call. In closing, I dont desire to argue with anyone; i have nothing to gain. Takeaway: One could reject the concerns of the church members and not label them racist. Melisa do you attend First Baptist ? No, Again. FBC Naples, Floridas longtime senior pastor Hayes Wicker announced his retirement from pastoring the church in January 2019. the group wrote. Ive already been excommunicated and humiliated. When you see me, you will see I am a black woman. These were ALL issues that these so-called dissenters were trying to have addressed PRIOR to the arrival of Marcus. FBCNaples | Naples FL I guess thats why this slanderous information is labeled as commentary. Bonnett told the Daily News in an email Wednesday no revote has been scheduled. Yet, thats what multiple sources have alleged is happening to them. In November, Caudill sent a letter to several prominent SBC leaders, including President Greear and SEBTS President Danny Akin, urging them to retract their statements supporting the racism narrative offered by FBC Naples. Despite these red flags, leaders in the Southern Baptist Convention (SBC) have supported leaders at FBC Naples. But what was concluded was that all things were not fair nor were they right. Now, everything I just said is my opinion. Jude certainly understood this. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive a copy of "Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse" by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. The power plays, ego trippin (yes, I did say trippin), greed, pride, etc., has been going on throughout church history. Takeaway: So much for a democracy. What a great and wise man of God he is? First Naples glorifies God by being a multigenerational, multiethnic, multiplying church, that raises up the next generation of disciple makers, church planters, missionaries, and world changers, to reach Naples to the Nations. SUNDAY, Dec 11 (7pm) Despite his disagreement with the process, Wicker said he submitted to an exit agreement offered by the church, which included a non-disclosure clause. That is a perfect summary of every Christians duty in the war for the truth. Grocery. Submit. FBC Naples also sent several cease and desist letters from prominent law firm, Holland & Knight, to several church members suspected of having involvement with the Voices of FBCN email. With two young children at home, she dedicated her time to being a stay at home mom until 2007 when the Lord opened the door for her to be a preschool teacher at First Baptist Academy in Naples. The campaign, he said in an email to the Daily News, consisted of social media, texting, phone calls and a series of emails. The experience with the church was so unnerving for the Wickers that in September, the extended familyincluding two adult children, their spouses, and six grandchildrenpulled up stakes from Naples and moved several states away. about the pastoral transition process at the church, a process which has descended Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive a copy of Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. Pray for Me; Log In ", When asked during the Q&A session whether he considers himself a conservative, Hayes said he is "as conservative as they come.". Sadly, too many people are more committed to idols than to truth and righteousness. Would highly recommended." - Tabitha C "Better prices than other sites." - Diana E. The message at FBCN is clear: get along or get out. The article above has been corrected to identify the group as Voices of FBCN. We've got a Bible & Life Group that's perfect for . Naples Christmas Celebration. "First Baptist Naples is, ethnically, a predominantly white church but we are not a racist church." Caudill said no one replied to his letter. Stop making everything about race. The leadership structure for the past 500 years in pretty much all of our churches is just refurbished Roman Catholicism. If this were a Calvary Chapel organization, or any other offshoot of Chuck Smiths piracy, no one would be surprised. Keep in touch with Julie and get updates in your inbox! Ready to start serving? However, CT said it was not able to confirm whether Biltmore Church received such communications. Sad on many, many levels! At the end of the service we found the pastor in The Commons area. Thats what REALLY happened. We see this is the third article this month youve found worth reading. The film makes note that Marcus Hayes was subsequently ramrodded in Crossroads Church Texas. Considering slave owners slept with slaves (even in my own ancestry), whites befriended their black help all while denying their equal rights it is possible to have friends and even spouses of other races and still have issues with bias and prejudice. He didnt return multiple phone calls and e-mails. And thats shepherding many hundreds of people over many years., In its open letter to the SBC, FBC Naples lay leaders and staff wrote that they know racial prejudice contributed to Marcus Hayess failed vote because of the campaign that started just days before by a few disgruntled people in our church., Presumably, the campaign to which the letter is referring is an email that was sent from the Concerned Members to those who had signed the petition shortly before the Hayes vote, requesting a special business meeting. Hi. Hayes Wicker was the pastor of First Baptist Church of Naples (Florida) for 27 years. I guess I missed this one. Dorrill near the end of a Nov. 2 service told the congregation that "the integrity of our election last weekend was compromised. And guess what? The process offers no protections for those suspected worthy of dismissal, so it invites rampant abuse. Masters of Divinity in Christian Apologetics, New Orleans Baptist Theological Seminary Opinion: What is Revivaland is it Happening at Asbury? Almost unbelievable saga of incompetence. The petition for a special business meeting was never even ACKNOWLEDGED by the leadership is a Violation of the bylaws. Kenneth Bonnett, pastor of communications for the church, declined to offer specifics about the church's allegations, saying "it would not be proper for us to share that content openly.". I certainly agree with you wholeheartedly, Grant. "It seems all cops ever see is black," the attorney continued. Church leaders at First Baptist Church Naples have blasted a faction of their congregation, alleging "racial prejudices" contributed to a failed vote late last month to name a black man. Rather than bringing members who are accused of sin before the church body for examination, members are being removed from the church rolls through actions taken directly by deacons and pastoral staff without a vote of the church body. Colson thought so highly of an oath of integrity that Wicker had written that Colson included the oath in his landmark book,The Body. Until this happens FBCN will be a former great ministry. Despite this track record, Wicker said he was shut out of the new pastor selection process. Such a loving bunch, arent they?!). More bluntly What have we done? . We cant wait to meet you and get you connected! The controversy, which quickly spread in religious circles online, has suddenly thrust the North Naples church into an unwelcome spotlight, much to the dismay of some members. Naples, FL 34109 (239) 597-2233. Hayes Wicker was the pastor of First Baptist Church of Naples (Florida) for 27 years. Let us pray for you. "And, as a result of that, there have been groups who honestly feel a little disenfranchised. Jonathan Akin is also national director of young leaders for SBCs North American Mission Board. We must keep those objectives straight; we are not entitled to wage warfare against people or to enter into diplomatic relations with anti-Christian ideas. After years of delay, Southern Baptists passed a series of reforms in 2022 aimed at addressing abuse in the nations largest Protestant, A former youth pastor at First Baptist Church (FBC) of Bentonville, Arkansas, has accepted a plea deal for his victimization of children, Several churches deemed not in friendly cooperation with the Southern Baptist Convention (SBC) have responded to action taken by the SBC Executive. Help Guides How about Luke 16:11 So if you have not been trustworthy in handling worldly wealth, who will trust you with true riches? Men who run a church into so much debt that it is soon bankrupt with one plague of pestilence, why do we believe Jesus gave such man any true riches or wisdom at all? Greear, SEBTS President Danny Akin, and Rev. My heart goes out to his family. I attended the Saturday evening service with Dr.Marcus Hayes. Garippa said The Naples Gathering has 350 to 400 people attending, 85-percent of whom are former FBC Naples members. weekend the congregation failed Enough racists voted against the pastor. Yet despite all thats happened, Wicker said, I pray people would not use this to come against megachurches or seeing all committees as bad., Similarly, Caudill stated, First Baptist Naples still has potential to be used greatly by God. Stephens said neither she nor any member of her family wrote the e-mail, adding that none of the church staff ever reached out or spoke to me. She also said the detectives told her that no criminal actions had taken place.. Takeaway: The treatment of the retiring pastor at FBC Naples is eerily similar to the treatment of the retiring pastor at McLean Bible Church. Who Will Pay for the SBCs Abuse Reforms Over the Long Term? Church leadership has told excommunicated church members that public response to their situation will result in a restraining order banning them from First Baptist Academy related activities. If there is any racism its from Pastor Hayes and his endorsement of Woke Movement. First Baptist Church of Naples Florida Openly Admits Congregational Racism October 30, 2019 by admin In a recent story from Religion News Source (RNS) it was revealed that First Baptist Church of Naples, Florida, failed to elect a new pastor because he was black. I am Caucasian from Eastern Europe. In the tweet, the attorney, Lee Merritt, wrote in part that investigators claim "all the shooter saw was black" and said that was "exactly the problem.". Namely Hayes Wicker. 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