He could see she was hurt. As far as you were concerned, did you think there were any family problems out there at the Stout home? Above all, the system sought to leave most decisions to the parents. Yes. No, sir. Why did you call Anna Villasana? I was very grateful to be with her, Rudee said. While recovering from her surgery, the Flea Market Flip host has had the best support system by her side. David Lancaster knew it was all over. Lucinda said she was going to kill her parents to get their money and their car; she was going to cut them up, put them in a plastic bag, and burn them. I dont know. Finally, what had she said to Anna on the phone that night? When he relayed Williams' symptoms . She didnt really want to do that, did she? Stout said shed gotten up around five; shed worked at the bank until 4:30 and at his shop for a few more hours. A few weeks after the move, Spencer rehired Lile to help her sort through some things because she had more than she could fit in the new place. The best result we found for your search is Lucinda Jean Spencer age 70s in Rincon, GA. Again she said the gun was in the white car and the knives were in her mothers kitchen. Previously he had worked at the Quadrant Health Club as a barber, had owned part of a topless bar on Greenville, and had run a barber shop at the Fairmont Hotel. We have the best job in the world.. Lucinda went to call Anna, he said, and he struggled to his feet, went out the back door and stumbled to his neighbors house, where he fell to the floor again. In those weeks Rudee got to know the man who was beside her friend in her last moments, and the two became friends in their own right. Her father left the store for about an hour and a half. So if someone took the witness stand and said that you had told them that you had been going with Angela Creed for the last year and a half prior to June of 1977, they wouldnt be telling the truth, would they? In the days that followed, Lara shared photos at physical therapy, working out with an exercise ball and doing leg and ab stretches. But the next day, doctors told Rudee there was nothing more they could do. No, I dont think so. Grigson had been appointed to test Lucinda Stout only to assist the juvenile court to determine her competency, maturity, and sophistication. When he subsequently was allowed to testify to her purported sociopathic personality and potential for future violence, the result was a 99-year sentence. When he gets there, he is given a surprise birthday party in which his best friend "Clay Spencer" (Mike Farrall) plays a trick on him by having a stripper pop up out of the birthday cake. The methods were transformative, I use them to this day. . Lancaster asked Stout if hed ever had any extramarital affairs. In 2002, Lucinda Marker and her husband, John Tull, came down with the Bubonic Plaguethe same bacterial infection that killed about one-third of Europe's population in the Middle Ages. It was a big move after she had a beautiful property she lived on for 16 years. No. The daughters of former Virginia Gov. Nick, Monroe, Spencer, and a police squad all arrived at the scene of the crime. No arrests have been made inher murder, which is now a cold case. You are not wearing a wedding ring, are you? Anna, did Lucinda ever tell you she was going to kill her parents? She is one sick human being. Miss America, a Strip Club, International Travel, a Gangster Ex-Cop, Possible Lost Bodies, a Shoddy Medical Examiners office, the Japanese Mob, and an FBI . I saw him and jumped on him and hugged him, Puzo said. When they found Lucinda standing over her father in the neighbors living room, Kleinmeir said Lucinda said Im crazy. She had a special little place out there she loved to go, Rudee said. I dont know what I thought. Yes. One of them would add that she was an incurable sociopath, likely to commit further violent acts. Her screams aroused her husbands attention. Police never found the killer. It was hard to tell; it was always hard to tell. To a politically astute prosecutor like Wade, the message was clear: Bring the hammer down on juveniles. Youll stake your professional reputation on that, Doctor? Lancaster queried. Stout testified confidently and precisely about the events of June 10 and 11. No, sir. He was quiet, he didnt go anywhere, that wasnt like him. He did his best. Ben Spencer hugs his mother, Lucille Spencer, after he was released from the Dallas County jail in Dallas on Friday, March 12, 2021. She added that all the business affairs of the Stout household were handled by Sharon, not Bobby. She was a free spirit; she was studying to be a yoga teacher; she was very gifted and smart, she was a dancer, she just had this bubbly personality She had a really wonderful life she was working on.. A 16-year-old girl, Brenda Spencer, who lived in a house across the street from the school, was convicted of the shootings. Stout admitted to at least two affairs but maintained they had been six years ago. Copyright 2018 Scripps Media, Inc. All rights reserved. And youre not going to lie for either one of them, are you? In between takes on GMA, she has been keeping her foot elevated. Did he ever mention any sorrow whatsoever that Sharon was dead? As a long-time defense attorney, David Lancaster knew a thing or two about Grigson. He said that on the afternoon of June 10, 1977, his father had left the shop about 3 oclock. We are heartbroken at your much-too-soon passing, and will be forever grateful for how you touched the life of our sister.. You dislike him because hes Mexican-American, dont you? You did understand that she was sixteen years of age Darlene Worden (Susan's Sister) says she will still not stop loving her sister despite the murder she committed and the fact that Susan refuses to reply to her letters. No . Under further questioning by the prosecutors, Robert went on to deny any knowledge of his fathers alleged extramarital affairs and the tension they had created in the household. Burnham cross-examined aggressively. While in the clinic, the Liles came across a psychologist who heard their story and about what Lucas Lile was going through. Most nights, the young man is working. David tried to talk to Lucinda, hoping she would tell him what had. Burnham objected strenuously, so Judge Mead decided to hear testimony outside the presence of the jury to make a determination on its admissibility. You have a lot of older trees in the area. When^ her mother took out a v bag of trash, Lucinda followed her, knife in hand. Lucinda was said to be relatively mature, but only one witness felt she was a threat to society. Alexander was tall and imposing, one of the best cross-examiners in the city. One judge may be satisfied that a child is beyond rehabilitation on the basis of one or two psychiatric reports; another may want ten. A few weeks after the move, Spencer rehired Lile to help her sort through some things because she had more than she could fit in the new place. Her body was found on the roadside. When? theyd argued from time to time about that, you know, and accusations would go back and forth; hed accused her of infidelities also. Youre not sure what to think. The past six months had shattered the Stout family: Cousins, uncles, aunts, grandmothers, and even friends had been asked to take sides either for Lucinda or for Bobby. She also said that sometimes Anna Villasana lied. I haven't given up all hope, but it's just pretty low right now.". Would you classify yourself as a good father? Not at this time; I have never worn one. It was a small victory, but David Lancaster needed all the encouragement he could get. "From the . Spencer had just broken up with her boyfriend and was moving off of the Lafayette farm property where she had lived for almost 20 years. Rudee went into the room and held her friends hand as they took Spencer off life support. In their brief, Schaffer and Haynes claimed that the testimony of Dr. James Grigson was inadmissible because the psychological test was based on a compulsory examination order by the juvenile court. Following the murder of her stepmother, she announced she would pay her dues to her stepsisters, notifying only Arthur. She had a good heart. Lucinda, his favorite niece, sat handcuffed and wide-eyed in the back seat of a patrol car. In two weeks, Liles family and friends will hold a picnic at Heil Valley Ranch on the anniversary of his death. Theyre both hard to understand for me. From its enactment in 1973, Texas procedures for certifying a juvenile offender as an adult were used sparingly and with little publicity. A very prominent family from Peru Indiana. No, sir, I didnt. It was the closest they could get to proving she was the one who held the knife that night. No moments but puckering and prancing about in revealing costumes too tight and too small for her. What matters was he discussing with you at that time? Because he had a bloody knife in his hand and my mom looked real bad, you know, she looked like shed been hurt. Lucinda and her sister, Florinda bullied Cinderella from a young age, she, her sister, and the Wicked Stepmother all attend a ball, and Cinderella's main goal is to go as well. Lancaster asked how Lucindas clothes had been transferred from police headquarters to the forensic lab. Lucinda Jarvis was a Murcilago that appeared in "Happily Ever Aftermath". Nothing can happen to Lucas.'. Steve Amis had been trying to find her for a week. He and I helped clean up the house together, Rudee said. The trial and punishment of Lucinda Stout. Most mornings, the girl is up at dawn. Lucinda had spent the night with her and had had an argument on the phone with her mother. No, sir. I dont think the penitentiary would help her. David Stout was called to the stand. While investigators initially thought it might have been a fall, the coroners office ultimately ruled the cause of death heart disease. Lucinda Stout would be sent to the grand jury and possibly to prison for life by the testimony of her father and her best friend. Lancaster and Alexander were not upset by the psychiatric portion of the testimony; it seemed to be a toss-up. Did you know Angela Creed? In the early Seventies, sex crimes were making headlines, and Wade was prosecuting Big Ms by sex slayers. I tried to lean forward to get my scripts and, well, I dont want to say what almost happened.. Lancaster scanned the jury as Lucinda stepped down. Needless to say, it was the worst day of my life, Gail Lile said. Never even said it in jest or jokingly. Did 1 ask you if Lucinda told you that she was going to kill her parents and you said no, didnt you? There was never a dull moment with Lucas, she said. She was a kind person and had been through lot in her life.. If theres anything that bothers her now, she says, its being the only 18-year-old girl in the prison. Some time after midnight. The actor, who originally left in 2015, died off . But the script makes him succumb to her fancies. There was not much he could do, Lancaster thought. My husband and I were pacing the floor, saying, It cant be Lucas, it cant be Lucas. Because we had gotten word someone had died. The same lady. A memorial stone with a plaque honoring Lile sits just to the side of an still unfinished and unnamed trail on Heil Valley Ranch open space, not far from where he died. But no matter how odd the circumstances that brought these two people together, Rudee said she will be forever grateful they had each other in the end. Robert, Gaither asked, did you ever know of any infidelity that your father committed? Brought up by over protective parents, Claire first caused a stir by fantasising about teacher Mr Hopwood in her diary, leading to her father attacking the object of her affection! He can only volunteer one coherent word and that word is Food. Despite the slop-piness of police procedure, it would be hard to explain to the jury that federal courts have begun to question the validity of any confession made by a juvenile while in the custody of the police. Obviously, father and son had had a heart-to-heart talk about his upcoming testimony. While she was in that horrible condition, he picked her up and held her in his arms, and I dont think many people would have done that. But during a routine physical, doctors discovered he had high blood pressure, and they couldnt figure out why. In 1988, she released her third album, Lucinda Williams, to widespread critical acclaim. If youd wanted to kill your father could you have shot him again? Be that as it may, while certainly not a great crime-drama by any means, I found it to be a decent movie for the most part and I have rated it accordingly. ***SPOILERS*** Somewhat confusing crime drama that's based on a true story, maybe that's why it's so confusing, about this parolee Lucinda Michaels, Cheryl Ladd, who gets involved with this very very very successful lawyer the sweet and very likable Clay Spencer, Mike Farrell, and takes him for the ride of his life; straight into the city morgue. Burnham had badgered her, but he hadnt caught Lucinda in any lies. The final witness in the certification hearing was Lucindas friend, Anna Villasana. April 20, 2018 / 10:01 PM Nellie still lives in the same rundown house on 3rd street, Peru; the house that Susan so desperately tried to leave behind. On my return back from Mat leave I was lucky to find a new employer who. She said she considered herself one of Luandas very best friends. She said Lucinda was in Junior Achievement, played the violin, sang in the Texas Girls Choir and was a good student. She was just getting to know her neighbors.. I have no idea why she went out to have a cigarette in 80 mph winds, Rudee said. By the middle, Lucinda has turned into a gold digger. Darlene admits she wishes she had not split the family by informing on her sister to the authorities. Lucindas second version of the events could not be introduced in testimony to dispute Stouts version, so the best Alexander could do in cross-examination was hint at motives Stout might have had for killing his wife and placing the blame on his daughter. "She didn't always have an easy life but that vulnerability she turned into an ability to just touch other people and we've been meeting so many different friends here and the way they speak about what she meant to them, means a lot to us," said Dan. Now Burnham prodded harder. Spencer Jones, his name rearranged, his face. But on that day, high winds had been ravaging the county, as they had been for a week. Find Spencer's phone number, address, hospital affiliations and more. Michael Woolson as the son tries to stay far away from the whore wife. He was never really sure what he wanted to do, his mother Gail Lile said, noting her son had done everything from bartending to going to school to become a teacher to serving in the French Foreign Legion. Why did you shoot him? Did she tell you the purpose of putting the turpentine in her mothers punch? Gaither asked. Stout, how much insurance was on your wifes life at the time she died? Emergency workers tried to revive him, but he was declared dead on the scene. "It's so they can't do it to any other family. Alexander had a suspicion he wanted to test out And there he is holding her in his arms and then helping me and the family., The fact that he died is hard to understand. It is all a true story. No, not recently. . Robert Stout came to the stand with the confidence of a man who had something to say. He had collapsed about a mile up the trail. Didn't want to miss my daughter's last soccer season or the holidays, so here we are! In laymens terms, the lawyers were claiming that juveniles rights in an arrest situation are special: They not only have to be read their rights, they must have the rights explained. But his ailment worried him less than the opposing counsel and the judge who was hearing the case. He hadnt wanted all the publicity in the first place. I dont remember. Likewise, her beauty definitely added to the overall scenery as well. Keep scrolling for more details on her injury and condition. A victim of a form of Lou Gehrigs Disease, Lancaster suffered from periodic muscular atrophy. Three years ago, he had opened an auto repair business in Irving. After the session, he went for another test. Gaithers job was to get Lucinda Stout certified as an adult. Grigson said it depended, but in some cases it would. Some juvenile offenders, the thinking went, were just too dangerous to return to the streets. Just to be together again and remember Lucas, she said. David said he was disappointed in his brother because he thought he and his family were a lot tighter. Although I didn't expect too much initially due to the made-for-television format, I was somewhat surprised by how well it kept my interest pretty much from start-to-finish. Robert testified that his father had told him in the hospital that if Lucinda was found innocent, he would be the one found guilty. Lile was a big, imposing man who earned the nickname Superman from his coworkers while he was working trails in Boulder County. Anna recounted several conversations she had had with Lucinda the week before the murder. Director Bill Norton Writer Frank Abatemarco Stars Cheryl Ladd Nick Mancuso Michael Woolson See production, box office & company info Watch on Prime Video included with Prime More watch options Add to Watchlist 8 User reviews 1 Critic review Photos 29 Top cast Edit Cheryl Ladd Lucinda Nick Mancuso No, sir. Proving a previous pattern of lawlessness might be harder, since Luanda Stout had no record of criminal or violent behavior; but the seriousness of the offense matricide would probably compensate for that deficiency. Mr. Lucinda Basset's program for conquering anxiety and depression grabbed my attention through her informercial in 1999. A little later, they went to a Chinese restaurant for dinner. Well take a break, Mead said, and then well argue starting at about 6:30. Suddenly David Lancaster was tired, very tired. Lucinda continued to confess to the crime, including a statement that she had taken her parents out that night for their last meal together. She was dressed in a simple cotton dress; her hair was neatly combed. We have the best job in the world.'. He is the image of his sister. Why did you run away? I spent time on the phone talking to his mom afterward, getting to share all of the experiences I had with him. While investigators initially thought it might have been a fall, the coroners office ultimately ruled the cause of death heart disease. The defense had failed to get Bobby Stout on any count; hed been believable. She sat down next to her friend, Lucas who was helping her move in. Lancaster questioned the officers, zeroing in on the question of whether Lucinda actually understood what her rights were. She had never met Lile, but she wanted to meet the man she had heard about from Spencer, the man who was there in her friends last moments of consciousness. Down in Boulder, Gail Lile was dealing with some post-retirement transition work at the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration when she got a call from her husband Larry Lile. On January 3, Lara posted an Instagram photo wearing a boot on her right foot. Possibly. I think 1 did, yes. Read critic reviews. Lucinda was monitored regularly by her godfather, Spencer Harrison, who gave her everything that she wanted to make sure she stayed distracted from her family. Then Lile heard the sound of wood snapping. You never told Donna Drake that you ought to kill your parents or something to that effect? That fact that he just passed himself four weeks later, I just really want to the truth to be told; that he did something amazing., Boulder County pair intertwined in life and death, Click to share on Facebook (Opens in new window), Click to share on Reddit (Opens in new window), Click to share on Twitter (Opens in new window), Get to know all 17 Denver mayor candidates , Fateful friendship: How 2 seemingly random tragedies in Boulder County last year just weeks apart were connected, Denver airport CEO Phil Washington tangles with Sen. 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Burn-ham was a wily, experienced trial lawyer with boyish good looks, a ready grin, and an aw shucks manner. I had to use the gun. Overall, the storyline I thought dragged on and needed something else. Today, I graduated with my true calling ahead of me." 2021 In proud memory of Lucas Robert Lile, the plaque reads. 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She says that sometimes she forgets where she is, but not for very long. Scattered storms (a few could be severe), mainly in Kentucky. The only point of dispute was where the blood was found and how it got there. And what was she doing? She started her killing spree to 'liven up the day.' Spencer's murderous rampage might have claimed more victims had the police not obstructed her line of fire using a garbage truck. Once again, Anna said, Lucinda mentioned killing her parents. TORNADO DRILL: What Time Sirens Go Off In Kentucky 6th graders at Noe Middle School stage protest over Kentucky 'pronoun' bill, WDRB FCC Applications & Related Materials. David Lancaster had wanted to do what was right for Lucindas appellate chances, and it was a fact that he was dog tired the evening he had to argue Lucindas case. News4's Jackie Bensen reports. On a recent sunny Tuesday afternoon, a view of the valley stretched out behind the rock. You hate your dad so much that now you want to blame him for this crime, dont you? Louisville saw wind gusts of 89 miles per hour during Tuesdays storm the highest seen in the metro area and northern Colorado on Tuesday. Lancaster would try to protect her rights, but at this point much depended on what Luandas father did. When your father got back, did he have someone with him? Spencer was able to sneak her uninvited into a black-tie party, where Lucinda won the heart of Arthur Jarvis, who had been occupied with her stepsisters minutes before, further fueling jealousy. Authorities said Spencer had stopped to rest under the tree as she was moving, and that a branch hit her head when it fell. A few weeks after Spencers death, Lile decided to go back to working on trails for Boulder County Parks & Open Space. but it can also be stressful. Spencer can frustrate with its idiosyncratic depiction of its subject's life, but Kristen Stewart's finely modulated performance anchors the film's flights of fancy. Well, this is like having a broken leg with two ends of the bone sticking out. He was convicted in the 1987 deadly robbery of Jeffrey Young . Boulder County employee dies following fall at Heil Valley Ranch. May 10, 2018. Anna dated Lucindas premeditation to the Tuesday before the crime. Are you upset with your dad because he wants your sister prosecuted for this offense, wants her punished for what shes done? By implication, they were raising an even larger question: Can a juvenile be arrested under one set of privileges and then tried and convicted under another? Keep your voice down. Yes. But when she saw him in the office his first day back, it was like the two hadnt missed a beat. They divorced in 1978 and Lucinda married someone with the surname Johnson. He further said that about a month after he had gotten out of the hospital, his father had a picture of Angela Creed on the desk in his office. Despite facing some challenges after the surgery, Lara has kept a smile on her face during. She had confessed to the crimes. Youre scared to death. Pretty soon, though, she got sort of used to it. But Lancaster regretted signing the affidavit when he saw how it looked in the headlines. I did not. Lucinda said she then went to her room. An enormous part of the tree had fallen and hit Cinda they were sitting two feet apart and it missed him entirely but hit her pretty directly on, " Dan said as he walked over and pointed to the area where it happened. When Mr. Stout came to his wifes aid, Lucinda ran to the living room, got a pistol shed planted there, returned to the kitchen and shot her father twice. Lancaster once again asked the witness if hed had any girlfriends within the past year. Is it customary for married people who respect their marriage to wear a wedding ring? Thats not what I asked you, Officer. Mead overruled. She and her mother had been carving meat in the kitchen. "The move was very hard on her," said her friend and. Its shocking what happened.. After she was struck by the tree, you called 911, held her and comforted her while waiting for the paramedics to come and then cared for her dogs. She went on to w. I had gone out with maybe one or two girls, Stout admitted. Or a year. "Lucinda" is a reference to Cinderella and possibly Lucifer. I was getting up. She said, I have to see my Lucas memorial rock, Gail Lile said. The last person that was truly with her was Lucas, telling her she was going to be OK, and she probably really needed that at that moment. Did you ever sit down and discuss problems with her? The only motive she offered the police was that her parents had grounded her for two weeks and she was angry because of it. Hed put up the best defense he could think of for Lucinda Stout. Can a simple hour-and-half exam provide the basis for categorizing an individual as a sociopath? You love your father, dont you? Susan Grund is the only one who knows exactly what happened that night in August. After a couple of perfunctory questions, the defense attorneys released Robert from the stand. His soaring spirit leaves a trail of lasting memories.. I dont understand. Liked by Lucinda Spencer Join now to see all activity Experience Provisional Psychologist Brisbane Catholic Education Jan 2023 - Present2 months Undertaking placement as a provisional. He said he worked out of his home and also made house calls. What made you decide to protect your father in this matter? It's pretty obvious about what will happen in this. The appeal, prepared and argued by Racehorse Haynes and Houston attorney Randy Schaffer, raised two large questions. My husband said he got a call, and they said something happened and they think its Lucas, she said. This isnt fair. Join Facebook to connect with Lucinda Spencer and others you may know. I think I told David to leave matters alone. By the end, she has become a monster. He is not, however, one of Henry Wades hanging judges; he is too politically astute for that. He couldnt hear them. Benjamine Spencer was 22 years old in 1987 when he was arrested for murder. Good Morning America host Lara Spencer is on the mend after undergoing surgery at the start of 2023.