family/fianc/false alibi providers), or more than meets the eye with this suspect. So the guys had a "Skip Jansen" on the pod to discuss a new suspect who is considered a suspect by LE but not named to the public. The idea that a gag order was issued on this truck is an unconfirmed rumor. You dont need a degree, credential, and a license to do this job, you know. We dont know if or when he worked for them before or after. News 8 is not using the names of the three women who openly shared their information. Search results for "A Lindsey McCall Medical Mystery" at Rakuten Kobo. ), and has a strong connection to the girls. She was emphatic about that. Delphi Murders /// Under the Bridge /// Part 1 /// 509Part 1 of 3www.TrueCrimeGarage.comDelphi, Indiana - February 13, 2017 - Middle school students Liberty German and Abigail Williams went for a hike on the Monon High Bridge Trail and were murdered. Correct. They believe that when fresh LE eyes looked at the case in 2018 (I think they said GBI) this is what shifted the investigation to look back at him and precipitated the 2019 press conference where LE corrected paths, clarified the correct sketch, and spoke directly to BG/the killer. The other person involved that is kin to this POI. Same with Evansdale probably too. If he is a poser, which is the worst of the worst, and he has a transport company, that gives him carte blanche to move around in committing more crimes of this nature in different parts of the country as he travels. 2-13 again. Im a retired homicide detective I know what Im talking about. The rumor that there was a spent cartridge at the scene is therefore confirmed. Also there are rumors that the girl left a note explain her pregnancy in a tree in her backyard. At 8:20 PM, the police scanner said that A., Mr. Xs wife, was coming to bring Mr. X a spare set of keys. Thank you! In general, the less said about the other aspects of his life the better, and they have no relationship to this case anyway. I have no idea if Skip, Jersey, and New Cricket are the same person, and I honestly don't care. I now think that in the audio of BG's voice, that the word, "Guys," sounds like a young man and the word itself is more commonly used by younger people. If so, wouldnt the coroner be able to obtain DNA from the fetus? Im not sure how he got there, if he drove a car, or if so, where he parked it. You will see below where we regard certain things as Proven. We also do not know why out of all of the places to search, he happened to pick the exact location where the girls were killed. Isnt that logical. Im really worried about people bothering or harming this guy and his family. Are they deliberately lying to us? However, it is still not clear that Mr. X did this on his own or if someone helped him. Relationship with older daughter and stepson: Unknown. We believe him. Good question Jess. Employed at two factories in nearby towns as a machine operator in recent years. And two girls were abducted there also. Furthermore, almost nothing of consequence is being said, and it reminds you of a night with your friends drinking, and no one says one thing of importance for hours. Unverified with Some Likelihood of Being True is a common qualification. The voice was a good match, the clothes looked familiar, and the walk was dead on. Pretty soon these fucking machines that are dumber than rocks are going to be making all sorts of unappealable decisions about our lives because the capitalists are too greedy to hire a real human to do the job, so they buy a machine instead. Cop: Come on, man, we know you did it. The 10-mile Delphi Historic Trails system is comprised of eight miles of urban "street" trails. Published: Feb. 8, 2022 at 3:28 PM PST. We obtained this document via a public records request. WRITTEN IN CAPS, APOLOGIES, BUT EVERYONE NEEDS TO KNOW THIS. Probably at least 6 weeks pregnant if the rumors are true. Not only that, but Mr. Xs alibi is that he was in another town from 2:15-3:15 PM on the day of the crime. You claim he works at Indiana Packers then say his profession is woodworking. She recorded them for a good six minutes and definitely longer. We may or may not have from 1-8 more official case documents from this case. I thought there was more to this blog. You came over here after sitting over of that hate Reddit, LibbyandAbby where youve been hating on me. One stepson, age 21 with the same first and last names. Can you email me with her name, please? But the police are having a very hard time gathering enough evidence against this man to take it to court. Only his hands, particularly focused on his bloody, sausage-like knuckles, could be seen with a caption that read after the brawl.. Calling off the search the night the girls went missing was a really, really bad choice. Kelsi German: Sister of Libby. He will be embraced by those that matter but I can only hope that those who need to get stuff off their chest reach out to him because he is there to bring those two girls justice and if I was BG, I would be definitely be scared. Believe it or not that is another QP. The Delphi Murders Live Special Guest Skip Jansen No views Sep 24, 2022 Tonight I will welcome my special guest Skip Jansen as we discuss current events going on in the Delphi case.. There is no doubt in my mind or anyone who is in possession of an IQ higher than double digit range that Ron Logan is not the killer. I guess I also wonder how everyone put such and effort to look only a few hours after being missing. @Amber- Residence at time of crime: Delphi, Indiana since 1984. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. White scarf covering the lower half of his face. I dont know if the bridge was within eyeshot of the spot where the girls were found. He could have even confessed to me, but I am still not under obligation to tell the cops. I think he may have had over 1,000 photos/videos on his drives or possibly more. Mr. X also cuts up a lot of deer that he shoots for food. They want to keep him in the dark. "You want to know what we know one day you will.". Ive looked this man over and I cant think of anyone less likely to commit this crime. I see T. Neighboring state. He could offend today in say, Ohio and offend in Illinois and be in his journey back home to commit more offenses. - would this mean that Qs DNA could be used to see if it is a familial match to bridge guy? It was stated that Libby was nude. You say that you dont even have a suspect, and youre waiting on that one tip to come in, but youre worried about double jeopardy? For whatever reason, she confuses facts all the time and cant keep her stories straight. If you met me, you would laugh at them for saying that. He has a prosthetic foot due to diabetes, and no way could he high-tail it across that bridge. The girl could well have been his high school freshman girlfriend. LE must know that BG recorded 43 seconds of audio, presumably of his crime. I did not delete the post; which means skipjansen did it. See below for which rumors we believe are proven and which are unverified. C'mon now. Dad is BG and KAK is waiting under the bridge. Deer kit on waist with five hunting knives. We also dont know what he was doing searching down there that night. What time was RL on video eating pizza? Try harder. Apparently neither girl was a virgin and both girls were sexually active in terms of PIV sex. Also to True Crime Garage. Our best police source just told us that Ron Logan has been absolutely cleared as a suspect. I don't even have a solid theory atm really because I've discredited a bunch of my own. Recently, multiple local sources with knowledge have opened up to share that this was a hit ordered by a very powerful businessman who runs a criminal operation that some say is akin to a mafia-style family outfit. Indiana State Police annou He's a guy. Please. The only way they could know this is if the rumors about BG sending photos or video of the crime to Abbys phone after the crime occurred are true. The point is that that Mr. Holder had nothing to do with this crime. So when LE said the younger sketch is the one who committed the crime, they were correct! Why didnt he pull up to his front door? So, yes, although the Evansdale girls were mere skeletons when found, LE believes they were posed. Would you please email me? https://beyondhighbrow.com/2019/09/20/support-beyond-highbrow/. FSG is at the trails every day. Yes, that is part of Leigh Kerrs testimony. At 1:35 p.m. on February 13, 2017, 13-year-old Abigail Joyce "Abby" Williams and 14-year-old Liberty Rose Lynn "Libby" German were dropped off by German's older sister, Kelsi German, on County Road 300 North, east of the Hoosier Heartland Highway.The girls were hiking on the Monon High Bridge over Deer Creek, among woodland in remote Deer Creek Township. I'll be happy to represent Nic and the Captain if it happens. Ive been angry at LE today regarding this case. We dont do that on here and never have. DELPHI, Ind. I long held that Evansdale and Delphi were connected due to the inversely related murder dates and MOAs. They just accept everyone as long as you say youre straight. Id be surprised if he were in on this, but stranger things have happened. The girls would have also been subject to hypothermia?? Only a deer kit looks just like that. She was found in an ivory/white dress. Wouldnt 13-14 year old girls be past dolls and stuffed animals? Another reason he stayed is we believe that he enjoyed the drama. I almost have to wonder if thats why he later concocted the story about the keys, perhaps as an afterthought when he realized it would be hard to explain why he asked to search for the girls but then didnt find them somehow, Uhh I was more focused on finding my keys, I must have overlooked the two dead girls I was looking for in the first place.. What are the odds that both parties made up these specific lies on their own? Still, we do not support witch hunts here. Fascinating episodes - Ive listened twice and got back through the old Delphi episodes too! A sheet with a smiley face on it at the crime scene, possibly hung from a tree. Neither one can possibly be BG. She described his eyes as dark and evil. I actually had written a letter to law enforcement that I failed to send, of which I was reading from. I have no idea either way, but its just something that has bothered me because I dont see him being brought up nearly as much as some others who have had little to no connection to this case. If one of the girls was pregnant, was the pregnancy a result of intercourse with Mr X? *******If you have information on this case or know who Bridge Guy is, or have had interaction with the anthony_shots profile please contact law enforcement. Etc. Then come email me and I will send you a link to the private group and a password to get you in. Thats very embarrassing. Neither Kegan nor Tony Kline can be placed at the bridge on that day or on any other day for that matter. Thanks again and have a great day. No one else has come close to uncovering the amount and quality of information we have. He said he had lost his keys and was going to call his wife to bring a spare set of keys to him. Here's what we've learned and what remains unclear: Yes, I know. Also to True Crime Garage. Hard to believe that there are two DPs and two QPs in such a small area. Please do not contact people you are suspicious of or attempt to harass, threaten or intimidate anyone. Kline was supposed to be in court Thursday, but a judge canceled the appearance. Robert, I am wondering why no reply to my question? See the photo Weve got a secret? We think the secret is that one girl is pregnant. If they were killed right away, its no problem, but if they were not killed until 12 hours later, its one more thing that makes no sense. So Mr. X was more traumatized by this crime than anyone else, including the victims grandmother who was hurt more than anyone. A man being eyed in the unsolved 2017 murders of two teens in Delphi, Indiana, has an "evil streak" and is "absolutely capable" of committing that type of crime, his brother said. Brad was a suspect for a while, and one of the detectives working on the case even stated off the record that he thought Brad did it. Etc. Brad Holder: Brads son, Jason, was Abbys boyfriend. Etc. If I can figure out how to post them here.. I am not revealing the name of the main suspect here and will only refer to him as Mr. X. I also request all commenters to also refer to him as Mr. X. I do this as a simple measure to try to protect his identity. I do not want to see this man or his family harassed in any way. It is being said that we are claiming all sorts of odd things about this crime, what happened, and the crime scene. 2/13, 2:13, 2-13. The dickheads there were trolling and harrassing him. Make They talked to Ron and he allowed them to park on her land. The document, obtained by "Murder Sheet Podcast," was provided to NewsNation affiliate WXIN on Tuesday. No, he came up with the lost my keys gambit to explain why his car sat at the cemetery from 6:30 PM the day of the crime to 12:30 PM the next day when the girls bodies were found, a period of 18 full hours. If this main POI isnt the bridge guy, he is definitely, without a doubt in my mind, involved in the murders of Abby and Libby in some form or fashion. People really seem to take him at face value and think that because he is older, hes not capable of committing such a crime. Still in Delphi, or on the border of Delphi. Do you know why FSG was there at the trails; how long hed been there; how he got there; if he drove, what sort of car he drove and where he parked it. Do you think someone was sitting in the car at the CPS building waiting for POI? Delphi Murders Update April 13, 2021: Stunning Rumors about the Murders and Related Matters Now Officially Proven! Its not clear how? I cannot remember which girl had taken the photo of the man on the bridge with her cell phone, but I had read somewhere that on that cell phone there was audio of her saying something about a weird man approaching them and that is why she took the photo. The police cant prevent private citizens from searching on their own, and its my understanding that many did. Thank you for stopping by the site. I believe you could be spot on with your main POI. cherrygemgem 1 yr. ago. Some new info here. Back to the POI, in February 2017, he lived next door to the cemetery which makes his actions and ruse around his truck & keys even more suspicious, if that is possible. DELPHI, Ind. Is there any meaning to these numbers or is he just playing sneaky, tricky games with us like these guys often do. Sexual age orientation: Pedohebephilia, nonexclusive, AOA 8-14. Im from the UK too and once a crowd beat up a Paediatrician because they mistakenly thought it meant he was a paedophile. They say they want to prevent false confessions. Just thought I would steel you for that thought. Theres something different about this casing, it stood out to me. TCG with Skip Jansen made a compelling argument as to why & how this person could be responsible. Thank u. LE thinks he stashed his phone at the CPS building during the murders. On the photo of BG on the bridge, does anyone else see handcuffs instead of camera/knife bag? But after continuing to receive these pings and after it being 5 years, I went back and decided to post as these images have since plagued me. Curious after listening to the down the hill podcast. Also if Kegans not involved, then neither is the father. We believe that the running away and months of therapy were also staged. In other words, they were faked. I long held that Evansdale and Delphi were connected due to the inversely related murder dates and MOAs. Its $20. She has channeled her pain into grief and sadness. So, the girls were found on RLs property. We are joined in the Garage by Skip Jansen to discuss a new suspect and a theory that is catching fire! Got it? I realize unsolved would be a magnet for that but wow. Im sure its very interesting to posit your wandering speculation about what if this or maybe something or possibly why, who or what, but at the end of the day, its writing words in the air with water vapor to be blown away with the next wind. Robert Lindsay is the leader of a sleuthing group that presently has ~230 paid members. ***************Tip Line: 735-822-3535Email tips to: abbyandlibbytip@cacoshrf.comBehind The Crime Door Intro courtesy of:Graphics done by: Grizzmaticly Clever Music by: Techdeath Hippie https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyOgSong: The RequiemTip Line: 844-459-5786 Email tips to: abbyandlibbytip@cacoshrf.com We wish people would stop talking about fingerprints. These are the facts about the man LE suspects is BG. Multiple sources indicate that a man named Richard Allen was booked into the Carroll County Jail Friday in connection with the Delphi murder investigation. They always came home. I find it ironic that he lived close to the Flora fires, and it wouldnt surprise me if he was linked to Evansdale as well. https://www.reddit.com/r/LibbyandAbby/comments/n33koj/gray_hughes_new_information/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf. Yes, I think Mr. X did this crime. 7) Hes local. Thank you. It says they are looking for photos, videos, cameras, videocameras, film, etc. . Garrett Kirts: Local man, all around run of the mill bad person. I read most of those posts over there and of course I read any post about me. Theyre Delphi related videos comparing his appearance to BG. So many armchair-detective, keyboard warriors who want to insert themselves into something they know nothing about; if they had any sense, they would realize that he is traveling to Delphi to answer questions, sort fact from fiction and definitively disprove the countless false claims and bad information that has spread about this case. You are an obviously intelligent person and have made many good points. Senior high school: First years unknown but graduated from Delphi High School in 1984-85. Makes no sense at all. The LE source didnt work on the case. LE caught Mr. X in the lies about losing his keys, calling his wife to bring him a spare, and a spare even existing in the first place. He was the right age, but he doesnt look like BG. LE would also be interested in anyone who may have helped Mr. X after the crime, perhaps burning evidence or whatever. I'm not asking about if someone inadvertently gave an alibi, I'm asking if you believe more than one person had knowledge during and after the murders were carried out. I ask this because another theory says they could have gone up the creek to a barn and then they should have dry clothes. Precisely how they were killed has never been revealed by police. Its buried under settlement and underbrush. We just sent a couple of our investigators out to Delphi and surrounding towns. But he also got wrapped up in collecting and apparently trading real deal child porn with little girls. Yes, the police have told us that they now think that Bridge Guy or Mr. X did Evansdale too. This was a sex crime, a sex homicide. Always. The bodies were dumped near flowing water, creeks or rivers. ( WXIN) A 2017 search warrant in connection with the Delphi, Indiana killings of Abby Williams and Libby German has been shared with the public. CN: Middle aged man, resident of Delphi. Thanks for your time. This seems to be one of the motives for the homicide. Oh one more thing. You made a mistake my friend. Shout out to anyone else who feels the same. And although hes no no saint, I dont think he has it in him to commit a crime like this. The judge would say you dont even have enough evidence against this man to take this case to court and throw it out of court. Yes. Weird, because on my feed his post shows up just 4 or 5 posts after this one, along with all 120 comments, including some made in the last few minutes. Days later the State of Indiana issues him a lifetime concealed carry permit signed by Superintendent Doug Carter. They take hikers and bikers past architectural gems. We dont just look at the Delphi case here. Same spelling as well. LE doesnt like being lied to, especially when they are investigating a double homicide. Instead of attacking the guy, why not support him! (WISH) News 8 has learned hundreds of tips have come in to authorities about a social media profile that may be connected to the 2017 Delphi murders of two teens. Kline admitted to state and federal agents that he opened the account just 12 days after the murders of Abigail Abby Williams and Liberty Libby German near Delphi in February 2017. @Luciana S- We are very worried that the police may be trying to pin this crime on Kegan and Tony Kline and we know neither one is involved. Case in point - he said last time that his suspect was currently in jail. Allen, who has entered . Indiana Packers workboots go up to knee-high, and they are waterproof. Ive seen some FB exchanges from BP where like you say, she appears to be defending Mr X or at least in denial that he could be a suspect. I just have a few random loose theories, none of which I am married to. Highly suspicious and the states that are responsible are more interested in getting into pissing contests as opposed to finding her. Victim was an 8-12 year old female. Keep sleuthing, youre on point to what I see. How bout taking it to heed, everyone? If any of you want to sift through there and find some interesting stuff and post it here, please feel free to go for it. Too fucking bad. @lemon @scarlet - I could not agree more. I may have questions, but that would be the extent.. Im also sure that its used as a tactic to convince the public that they were completely justified in making whatever decisions they felt required justification. He got turned in because two brothers for some reason were saying that he was BG. One last side note.. Nic stated in the podcast that Indiana collects DNA for all individuals convicted of a felony but it's actually anyone arrested for a felony, which is a much lower threshold. Say for instance LE arrested Mr. X and charged him with the double homicides of these two girls. A lot of my comments have been deleted, not at my discretion. Delphi Murders /// Under the Bridge /// Part 1 /// 509 Part 1 of 3 www.TrueCrimeGarage.com Delphi, Indiana - February 13, 2017 - Middle school students Liberty German and Abigail Williams went for a hike on the Monon High Bridge Trail and were murdered. The main suspects DNA is found in the forest around the crime scene. You think Im stupid? That person is probably some local creep getting revenge since those girls parents were into the same bullchit. Those aspects of the crime are the following: We feel that these facts are validated because in 1-3, they were seen by us in the crime scene photos and also by a female search party member at the scene, in 4, they were seen by two separate female search party members who had never talked to each other, and in 5, it was verified by a conversation with the girls guardian herself backed up by a postmortem photo. Theory says they could have gone up the creek to a barn and then should. 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