I live in Barre , Vermont, the granite capital of the world. For that matter, let's see anyone make those perfect, precise grooves in ANY materiel by hand. #83. interesting comments over the yearsFirst of all, knowledge is NEVER lost, its just not used for todays life style. Among the monumental architecture built by the Tiwanaku, whose civilization thrived in what is now Bolivia between 500 and 950 A.D., was a staggering complex known as the Pumapunku.For centuries . ( saiko3p /Adobe Stock). Too bad Puma Punku isn't located in a country that gives a damn. they all ran away. The suspected flood could have happened somewhere around 12,000 years ago, and there is scientific evidence of tools, bones, and other material within flood alluvia, which suggests that a civilized people were there prior to any flood. Generally it is agreed that the large red sandstone blocks were quarried about 10 km (6.21 miles) away from Puma Punku and the smaller, more ornamental andesite was sourced about 90 km (55.92 miles) away on the shores of Lake Titicaca. Hey, they could have a screenwriter on site to chronicle the findings and maybe create the next billion dollar blockbuster. The absence of everything except the ridiculously precise stonework almost makes the alien theory seem more reasonable. My day visions sometimes make me pull off the side of the road -- they are so strong. Ellen Lloyd - AncientPages.com - The mysterious site known as Puma Punku, "The Gateway of the Puma.". Gregg Braden explains that some of the earliest credible accounts of the Giza Plateau come from the Greek historian and geographer Herodotus, who, in the early 400s B.C.E, compiled a reference book on ancient civilizations, cultures, and technologies predating his time by thousands of years. We may add one more possible clue to this story. The holes cored into these stones are perfect and all of equal depth. Maps such as the Piri Reis (1513) and the Oronteus Finaeus (1531) have been found that pre-date European discoveries. By examining the ruins and their relationship to the stars, Some skeptics claim that the alien theory is nonsense, leaving Puma Punku debunked. But based on this corrupt and greedy world we live in it could be getting close to our end, read the events in the Bibles Book of Revelations as those scrolls and writtings survived for a reason.. @ Sara, yes I do know, I know your full of it! The 80 ton pieces could not be moved by any method we have today. There would be major cracking and pitting. Treasure hunters, too, have harvested many of the sites relics: rare metal ornaments, bright jewelry, and colorful potsherds. If he learned it, why did society largely forget his knowledge? But what they left behind was so magnificent that when the Inca found its ruins 500 years later, they thought Pumapunku must be the spot where the gods had created the world. Just how much did these ancient people know, and what were they able to do? In western Bolivia, a dramatic collection of stones, the remains of a vast temple complex, stand guard over an arid plane. Maybe you can see something. It still doesn't answer how these stones got there. Unless it's anchored to the core of the earth. Then much later, the black-headed people came across the Bering and claimed the ruins and all the non-ferrous metals. Amateur archaeological excavation and looting are believed to have occurred repeatedly over the centuries. So, all one has to do is go visit the site in question or any site, do a lil ceremony an ask the creator for answers an he will give them to you in ur dreams. several weeks ago, i was fortunate enough to watch the sunrise on the solstice from the akapana hotel, overlooking the three temples. It focused mainly on the internal chambers of the great pyramids. Available at: https://www.theepochtimes.com/enduring-mystery-surrounds-the-ancient-site-of-puma-punku_1053085.html, Dunning, B. Like the Inca after them, they practiced human sacrifice, disemboweling and dismembering victims as part of a ritual dedication to the gods. Different jobs were associated with different degrees of prestige. Their legends explain that Viracocha created humans from the earth on a great rock. Spanish Conquistadors and others who visited the site during the 16th and 17th centuries described it as a wondrous, though unfinished, building with gateways and windows carved from single blocks., Pumapunku displayed a level of craftsmanship that was largely unparalleled in the pre-Columbian New World, and its often considered the architectural peak of Andean lithic technology prior to the arrival of the Europeans. We must look to the past in order to go forward! Why Has This 1600 Year Old Pillar in India Never Rusted? Good Hub. A planet orbiting such a sun in the goldilocks zone without debris from an exploded planet would have billions of years to develop an advanced race without constant start- overs from mass cosmic extinctions. They are both novels which explore the possibility of earlier human civilizations achieving great technological ability and then being erased from history by great cataclysmic events. They're still finding metal jewelry from thousands of years ago. I recently heard a radio interview about all the space junk orbiting the earth right now and a caller asked how long it would take for everything to either drop out of orbit or fling off into space if people disappeared tomorrow and the fellow being interviewed (I believe he was from Nasa but I can't confirm) said that most of it would be gone in just a few hundred years and in a couple thousand years all of it would be gone. Maybe for our own good. This could cause the N/S poles to swap, could cause violent earthquakes and giant waves and floods or could again cause nothing as we have had a few 27,000 year time cycles that nothing has taken place. Another group of archaeologists used the carbon dating method to date the construction of Puma Punku to between 400-600 AD. More alternative suggestions say the stones could have been moved with some sort of large lifting vehicles which mainstream archaeologists do not believe existed in the area at the time. Then after we are done exploring we leave the moon to its indigenous people, and not go back, leaving behind all the buildings. Even today, the fashioning of these megaliths can only be accomplished with advanced diamond-tipped saws and drill bits. The complex also boasted a central promenade and wide courtyards to the east and west that were paved with slabs of stone so astonishingly large that paranormalists have hypothesized alien intervention. Want out of the box? advanced species can easily direct objects directly into earth's direction. I came away with something I could at least imagine was comprehensive and that was that it was a school, or better; a university. Why is there no one in the world who knows as much about electricity as Nikola Tesla did? why is there no mention of gobleki tepe? Puma Punku is located at an altitude of 12,800 feetthis makes it even harder to explain how the ancient quarried, transported and put into position the massive rocks as Puma Punku is located ABOVE the natural tree line, which in turn means NO trees grew in that area which means that no trees were cut down in order to use wooden rollers. Bering Archipelago May Debunk Land Bridge Migration Theory, Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu Wants to Clone Scythian Army, Archeologists Puzzled by Hundreds of Egyptian Tombs from Pre-Dynastic Era. Puma punku was a terraced earthen mound originally faced with megalithic blocks, each weighing several tens of tons. whe environmental conditions make the need for change a reality an the need to adapt to survive. Even when i was really little - age 5, 6, 7 etc i used to === night dream and day dream about steps and pyramids. I've been looking into Puma Punku lately to try and understand how it relates to many other megalithic sites around the world. Our culture believes that in the past there was a GOLDEN BRIDGE on the peak of this mountain. Who knows, with intense excavations we might find all the materials we talk about under some ancient mud flow or earthquake. Note3: A clean pronounciation and syntax which is optimized to be concise and deal with abstract concepts.) The unique nature of the site raises curiosity regarding its builders, when it was constructed, and its purpose. Or other artifacts found in the area, or what? Home Privacy policy and copyright Bad Archaeology: what is it? Animals were not used. Well, we also have our fair share of ancient giants with evidence to link their existence. Even if it's not that old, I simply can't understand why this site isn't the focus of a "moon-shot" level of intense study given it's totally obvious implications. Also, Tiwanaku seems mostly made up of small bricks, easily transported, not the massive megaliths of Puma Punku. The strongest feeling every second of my life is to hurry - we dont have much time ! We may never have these answers until they decide we are ready for them to come backthat is if they still exist and I hope they do. Both are very well written, but approach the subject very differently. I believe the Universe was built on simplicity! Our species as it exists today, has been around almost 300,000 years. They are whats left of a stunning architectural feat accomplished by a society that predates even the Inca: the Tiwanaku. There is a sunken courtyard lined with stones and adorned with carved heads. It was once an earthen mound with carved red sandstone walls that would have shone in the sun. We just had to set aside centuries of archeological dogma ("humans became civilized 7000 years ago") and start looking! We find unbelievably old artifacts made of precious metals precisely because they don't corrode (or they oxidize very slowly). The Tiwanaku people who inhabited Puma Punku were polytheistic and had a special focus on agriculturally-themed gods. All i prophecied in the Bible. Virtual reconstruction of an entire andesite building at Puma Punku. No, it is not, learning is the most important aspect of human survival. I was confused and said nothing to anyone. I could easily remember the smells,,,,sounds,,,views etc. another alien species does not want you or finds you a threat. ( Matyas Rehak /Adobe Stock). Also, as others have pointed out, the tools would not have been left at the construction site. With the technology that we currently have today, it would be extremely difficult to recreate the site of these ruins, if possible at all. ( A. Vranich, 2018 ). Easily See 6017 Years of Biblical and World History Together! Quoting Wikipedia proves nothing. To this day, it remains an ancient mystery. (Note1: That the future is behind us makes perfect sense: think of sitting in a train facing backwards. It remains to be shown whether their forays into other dimensions offered these early people a special insight into how to create their megaliths or even how to contact beings who could teach them advanced methodologies. Is the 'Dragon Man' Skull Actually a New Human Ancestor? The second largest stone block at Puma Punku is 7.90 meters (25.9 ft.) long, 2.50 meters (8.20 ft.) wide, and 1.86 meters (6.10 ft.) thick. If not to leave a permanent, impressive, record of your visit to Earth for future generations? Id guess it was a work-in-progress site that was hit from a deadlyradiation wave from the Atlantis destruction, circa 115k BC, adding the zero back to Platos timeline. On a totally unrelated note, but can be linked to oral tradition so i don't think i'm outta line by posting this, but there is a group of natives living around hudson bay, in canada for those who don't know, but they have stories from oral tradition that tell of stories of the bigfoot creature as a known an living entity..BUT..it comes from a parallel dimension. If visitors from a super-habital planet set up bases on earth they may have been taken by surprise when a comet slammed into Earth 12500 years ago causing the damage we see from the catastrophe such as Puma Punka. Just thought I'd drop in and debunk an Ancient Aliens episode I saw recently. In the legends, it is said that this is where all of humanitys ancestors, people of various ethnicities, set out to populate the world. The Arena Media Brands, LLC and respective content providers to this website may receive compensation for some links to products and services on this website. The amazing issue is not only the stones, carving, moving: it's that this was done @ 15,000 years ago. You can see the past stretching in front of you as the future comes unseen from behind. The exact origin and age of the site is disputed. The issue with this is, it is several thousand feet above the water. when asked what he thought about how it was accomplished, he said that he had no idea. As the population of the Tiwanaku society grew, so too did the number of skilled craftsmen and artisans. In our culture even today, there are few master and dedicated priests who can move these giant stones by prayers. Even with the technology that we have today it's not possible at all. No one said aliens are from a different planet. Archaeological evidence suggests that it once had large courtyards on the eastern and western sides and a wide courtyard at the center. Unfortunately, weather isnt the only factor that has harmed the site. drawings. Some of the stones are in an unfinished state, showing some of the techniques used to shape them. So the earth is billions of years old, and habitable to the human race for this duration. Fourth: most natives from the past told stories through oral tradition, is it not conceivable that these people, if they did not write there stories down simply handed them down to each other generation to generation? WHY CAN'T WE JUST LEAVE THEM ALONE AND RESPECT THE CULTURES OF OUR ANCESTORS! Another point to consider is that Mother Nature makes species just smart enough to survive then evolution stops. After reading the Gita, written thousands of years ago in ancient India, I am quite convinced humanity has risen and fallen multiple times in the past. The Horsemen of Oyo were legendary warriors who served the Oyo Empire of West Africa. Puma Punku is a Pre-Columbian archaeological site in Bolivia that is steeped in wonder and mystery. The longer a civilisation can survive for the more advance it will be. Those issues don't matter - yet. I'm inclined to believe in the lost technological civilization theory more than anything. Now, back to a real mysterypuma punku. Our solar system and our blue/green water planet is on the outer edge of one of our galaxies spirals. https://lookoomehome.files.wordpress.com/2021/04/11a-ponce-monolith-tiwa https://cdn.xxl.thumbs.canstockphoto.com/tiwanaku-monolith-closeup-view- https://www.travelyesplease.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/IMG_3670-Edit https://images.fineartamerica.com/images/artworkimages/mediumlarge/1/ten Just like with the ancient Greek (or Atlantean-era) statues from Africa, Europe, and Asia, THE NOSES ARE SMASHED OFF. If you do look at some of the "route-outs" on some Puma Punku pics, you CAN see flaws in some of the chisel-outs. Who among us has had an out of galaxy experience to make such an observation? He probably had a whole team of smart workers, but none smart enough to carry on the work after he died. In this isolated part of the world stand amazing smooth stone structures featuring precision-made cuts, clean right angles, and expertly fitted joints. To make up for this, we have a trek to the peak once a year to maintain contact with our heavenly brethren. Photo credit. 33 Hells Angels Photos That Put You Inside The Notorious Biker Gang, Rare Case Of Coffin Birth Found In Medieval Gravesite, What Stephen Hawking Thinks Threatens Humankind The Most, 27 Raw Images Of When Punk Ruled New York, Join The All That's Interesting Weekly Dispatch. Civilizations like the Assyrians, ancient Egyptians, the Maya, the Indus Valley peoples, and many others the world over were, if true, the second wave of civilizations, not the first. Ancient Astronaut theorist, Giorgio Tsoukalos explores one of the most compelling and mysterious locations on Earth, Puma Punku. Just because we live in a fast moving, mostly urban, disposable society does not mean a past civilization took that route. It is a barely habital planet subject to regular mass extinction events due to super volcanoes and a solar system littered with debris from an exploded planet which created a dangerous asteroid belt. I have a video game system around here somewhere thats older than Puma Punku. Scientists are supposed to have open minds when theres a lack of evidence or evidence that contradicts accepted theory. Besides Puma Punku, there are other sites in Peru, pre-Inca, that have traits that cannot be explained other than these peoples possessed technology far superior to what we possess today, this goes for the great pyramids, and all of the Mayan Kingdom, who vanished as well. I think the basic problem we all have with our questioning, is that we are trying to figure out something from within a box; that totally resides outside the box. Any place life can exist, it will exist. If they couldn't have done it, how is it possible that an even older group of people accomplished it? Attractive design ideal for your home, office, church . That's a VERY long time to be scratching in the dirt without achieving anything. Since there is no equipment found, it follows that whoever built the fortress, retrieved their equipment, and then destroyed the fortress. There is one more significant thing to mention regarding the ruins of Puma Punku. How is it that these ancient people were able to cut stones like this? it was cold outside! There are varying reports on the weight of the largest stones ranging from 140 tons to 800 tons, with the larger number often provided by sources leaning towards alternative explanations on how the site was built. Great post Backwoods! Mostly coastal or somewhere near water so we are pretty much living on where those ruins would be. Explore alien connections, time travel, underwater UFO activity, ancient Martian civilizations, and much more in this thought-provoking . . Anyone who thinks there aren't trillions of life harbouring planets across the cosmosis a moron! A standard back and forth motion will give you a straight line even at a certain depth. For those who refute the idea of "ancient astronauts" or advanced beings, think of it this wayWe sent men to a moon we new little about in order to learn and discover. ", "Preserved paintings, coins, and a detailed description of the entire transportation process. Either way, when the Inca people reached the site in 1470 it was evident that Tiwanaku had been deserted for centuries. The most intriguing thing about Puma Punku is the stonework. jesus did not say so my friend because jesus died in india. I am overwhelmed and take notes all the time but have to hide them. . The stones are of mammoth proportion. These maps contain landmarks, as well as depictions of the areas, which appear to be very accurate. Photo credit, The numerous H-shaped blocks all match each other with extreme precision and fit into each other like Lego blocks. I was going to write one on this but could do no better than you have and so will not bother. Not to mention that no one has explained how the molds for the concrete were made with such small grooves and holes in them. Temple Puma Punku: Model 3D: C4D. Where is their curiostythey're imagination? In assembling the walls of Puma punku, each stone was finely cut to interlock with the surrounding stones and the blocks fit together like a puzzle, forming load-bearing joints without the use of mortar. i love this story as its absolutely true, the stories of our ancient ancestors, for us, they are lost but in reality they are never lost..i've always maintained that in order to know the truth all one has to do is ask the creator an pray for answers. Theres been many branches of humans through out the past. Ceramics and textiles took on new color and vibrancy, and jewelry proliferated. @MdBilly the Milkyway Galaxy is 100,000 light years across. (Adwo /Adobe Stock). Photo credit, How Puma punku might have looked. Giant megalithic construction cranes would not exist in 1000 years!? The architecture found in the ruins astounds archaeologists and historians and has inspired advanced ancient civilization and ancient alien theories. And no one seems to be paying attention to the fact that the Aymara insist that Puma Punku was built "by the gods" in "a single night". How on earth do you move a stone 800 tons in weight form the quarry which is 10 miles away and to the site in the mountains? Of equal depth 's that this was done @ 15,000 years ago an earthen mound with carved heads created. Is NEVER lost, its just not used for todays life style think sitting... 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