If you can do that, they will accept you with open arms, and, actually, be on their best manners when you talk to them. Accuracy and availability may vary. It's the way we measure all people, the Homo sapiens equivalent of sniffing butts by the fire hydrant. During the 1977 World Series, the MLB commissioner's office banned then- Sports Illustrated reporter Melissa Ludtke from both teams' locker rooms, overriding the New York Yankees' blessing and a majority vote in the Los Angeles Dodgers' clubhouse. "Can I talk to you for a minute," I said. We won some awards, and I gained some confidence and perspective. In I went into the world of major testosterone, stinky athletic shoes, and wrinkled jerseys, and out I came a different person. It would be the last day ever for those white shoesand my first of many covering professional sports. The guys are much more formal in talking. Ludtke said she constantly reminded people that she never demanded to go in a locker room. On Tuesday, Portis told 106.7 The Fan that both players and female reporters have wandering eyes when the sexes are mixed in a locker room setting. New York Jets owner Woody Johnson personally apologized for the team's behavior. It was mostly worn, ectoplasm-green indoor-outdoor carpetingand stares. SAGAL: I got to ask you about the locker room. Olson later wrote a column apologizing to Wells for coming to his house during what was such an emotional time. I asked forand receiveda transfer back to sports. I might have actually said, "Can we talk about how your face looks like one of those ear-shaped potato chips that the lady from the Lay's factory brings on The Tonight Show once a year? To begin, I want to point out that female reporters have every right to be in the locker room as male reporters do. By then, I had become accustomed to the nudity and byplay of the locker room. Create and promote branded videos, host live events and webinars, and more. The next day, another player told Eskenazi it was a joke. On cue, all the players in the Jets locker room got up and they all had the word Gitte written on their asses, he says. Ludtke said when Point guards became my instant favorites for those early post-shower interviews. She has also authored six books and was the first Texas Rangers ball girl. He starts parading around the locker room with his buttocks exposed, saying Gitte over and over again, Eskenazi says. SAGAL: The club was famed for its beverage known as Fish House Punch, which according to legend was so potent, it knocked George Washington out of commission for three days. (He later apologized in a newspaper ad, while denying using crude language. Tell Me When It's Over is an interview series in which we ask former athletes about the moment they. NFL Network reporter, Jane Slater, says that her job being dependent on waiting around an NFL locker room while men are completely naked for an hour to get a. SAGAL: Absolutely. "Jenn," he asked, "do you want to be treated like an 18-year-old kid or a woman?". I helped cover the team for the Associated Press. Referring to the United States military's use of Patriot missiles during the then-ongoing Gulf War, Kiam said to the audience: "What do the Iraqis have in common with Lisa Olson? And it had just started to become something that women could do, and I thought I can do this. I had enough natural talent, I felt certain, that with one high heel in the door, I could work my way into a writer's jobmaybe even someday cover baseball. I was a common sight in and around the Rangers digs in those days, so it was no longer like I was some rookie, afraid to speak my mind. Ines Sainz: NFL Investigates Jets And you won't believe this, and I swear it's true: the immediate response of three women who don't even like sports outside of bungee jumping at Baja is, "You've seen Ro Blackman naked?". Jennifer Briggs has covered the Texas Rangers, Dallas Mavericks, Dallas Cowboys, Philadelphia Phillies, and Green Bay Packers. Eskenazi recalls an episode from the New York Jets locker room in 1988, when defensive end Mark Gastineau pulled down his pants to show Eskenazi a tattoo on his hind quarters reading Gitte, short for then-girlfriend Brigitte Nielsen. Gerry Fraley of The Dallas Morning News was the only other writer in the press box. We laughed and remembered when Desmond Reed finally scored a touchdown and he lit up telling me, I couldnt even enjoy it. I think I may have actually gained some respect in various journalism and sports circles. So I didn't write. Or go back to feature writing. I cant really think of something else thats similar to this, Bailey said. In 1973 she was hired as the New York Times' first female sports reporter. But there were a few giggles. 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Oh sure, at first they think it's pretty cool that you're the only person at a party who can remember Neil Lomax's name or that you can name all the Rangers managers in 18 secondswith a shot in your mouth. Gayle had heard the Fort Worth Star-Telegram higher-ups had had a meeting that morning regarding my continuedor discontinuedemployment. Yet all the time I was still dreaming up stories to get me to the ball park. Good God, all I had wanted to do was cover sports. Players mostly accept that strangers will see them au naturel. Raffy, Kenny Rogers, Kevin Brown had their little clique on the far side of the clubhouse. A, while he was gone, the club had viewed the classic Monty Python Dead Parrot sketch and decided Mr. Palin was too vulgar to be readmitted to the premises; B, he got back to London but couldn't be readmitted because he was poorly dressed; or C, he tried to drive himself to the club in central London but got lost? teams to allow her and other women reporters access to athletes in the postgame locker room when, unexpectedly, the two coaches at the 1975 N.H.L. Gardner is considered a pioneer in sports broadcasting, having been the first female sports anchor to appear weekly on a major network. Sometimes I'd turn the sound down on the TV and try to do baseball play-by-play, too. Guys just walk around naked, mostly, says Arizona Republic sports columnist Paola Boivin. Numerous new-media outlets have likewise gained access, leading to a ballooning locker room press corps and, in turn, limiting the exclusivity of any individual interview. Other summer nights we sat on the back porch and listened to the Rangers on the radio. Olson was born and raised in the metropolitan area of Phoenix, Arizona. In no other workplace in America are you expected to be putting your clothes on, and somebodys going to talk to you. I think about what it would be like to have them asking me every day, "Well, how about that really thrown-together graph there at the top?" And now the game where we ask people who've achieved great things questions that diminish all their achievements. It's a place for changing attire and accessing personal belonging. Yeah, my ode to the old stadium won it all. And his eyes got to be like the size of paper plates because what I didn't notice was that he was buck naked. Near the field, I can see it is Al Newman and somebody. SALIE: Like gee, coach, it's not going so well, is it? TAFOYA: All right, Daniel. Thank you for visiting Slap Shot. After all, the story had just hit newsstands and restaurants and bars and grocery stores in the dead of the previous night. So do you know about sports?" But the road has been anything but smooth. I wrote about civil rights issues and roamed through abandoned warehouses alone in search of skinheads. Sometimes I will request an interview at someone's house, and my peers act as though it's weird. [4] Robert Perryman did the same while her back was turned. Horse's Heinie on occasion, was watching a college football game in a chair in the middle of it allnaked. The Mavericks were a delight to be around even when pissed off. It was walking into the football locker room at the University of Texas in Austin and having a large man with burnt-orange pants and dark white face pick me up by my underarms and deposit me outside the door. "Can I stand here with y'all for a while?" Get two questions right, and you win our prize. Donna doesn't like newspapers either. Then it hits me: My job means I get to be around this game and write about it. Half the cost of the team's fine was to defray instructional materials the league could send to all teams and players, and Tagliabue wrote a letter to Kiam expressing his belief that the incident had "damaged" the league. Yet I wonder. A female reporter conducts post-game interviews with members of a men's soccer team in the locker room. Many of the women they're aroundother than the reasonably stable ones like their wives and mothersare groupies. I think how cool it is to watch a stadium yawn to life. Buying ball tickets to as many games as my dad and I wanted to see was out of the question, so we climbed the wall in the late innings or sat in those free grassy spots behind the Cyclone fence. Michele Tafoya, welcome to WAIT WAITDON'T TELL ME! I seriously considered taking a job as a researcher for a law firm. Girls in locker rooms are overrated. By Adrienne Jones. It was an exercise in concentration trying to figure out who was who, and while I was concentrating, unfortunately, I managed to sashay into an area that should have had warning signs around it. A, on Women's Day which is a holiday named after a magazine. I used to write Dallas Cowboys columns in blue Crayola on a Big Chief tablet in the part of my sister's walk-in closet I had designated as the press box. TAFOYA: So I went to Charlotte, North Carolina, and I did five hours of sports talk radio every day, and that was my SAGAL: That is the hardest job in the world. It began when I was 3 and my daddy took me to Turnpike Stadiumnow Arlington Stadiumto see the old minor-league Spurs. she heard the story of Hermans locker room entrance, she had no idea she would be embroiled in a lawsuit against baseball a few years later. I refused to leave. He was really mouthing off at me. The first Ranger I interviewed was drying his stomach with a towel. If you get this one right, you will win. All-Star Game in Montreal. Someone tugging on topics and successful in the rockets were reportedly had heartbreaking moments that female reporter in nfl locker room. [4] In 1985, the NFL enacted an equal access policy of its own. Long before I was allowed to eat fish with bones, could go all night without peeing in my bed, or understood Gilligan's Island wasn't real, I loved baseball. I concluded my sports hiatus last year with a stint on a special projects news team, collaborating with another reporter on a series about Fort Worth's high infant-mortality rate. I was one of the guys. Donna doesn't like politics, so she asks what it is I do for the paper again. I was covering the minor league team in Wilmington, Del., one night. All rights reserved. She is a frequent guest speaker at schools and colleges, and active in public schools' mentoring program for girls who hope to study journalism. TAFOYA: So there I am, and I'm getting ready to go in, and this is the first time I've ever done this, and I'm just going to do some radio interviews for tape to take them back and turn them around, and I said to myself I had a rule I established before I went in. Standard Fraley, so no problems there. Bill, how did Michele do on our quiz? The Boston Herald offered her a transfer to Australia, where she would work for the Daily Telegraph in Sydney, which Olson accepted. I walked over to him and asked how old he was. He sobbed at his locker for 15 minutes after the game, as ESPNs Kevin Seifert wrote, later facing a gaggle of reporters. She lives with three dogs in her happy bungalow in Texas. It is funny. "Are you going to talk to me or not?" There were reporters all around the lobby of the downtown Hyatt, waiting for coaches to arrive after a golf game. MO ROCCA: Can I ask you, when you talk to the losing team, do you kind of put on, like, a nice mommy voice, or do you change your tone of voice? It was an area high school coach who routinely tried to get me to drop by his house when his wife was out of town; when I refused for the third time, he refused to provide any more than perfunctory answers to my story questions. As I steamed over this, I took a shot of courage (a cold Starbucks Caf Latte) and pondered my circumstances. I understand that uniformsunless they say, "Eb, your man who wears the star" on the lapelare a great aphrodisiac in contemporary culture. Nope, in fact, I was invisible. Perfect. "Jenn," my friend told me, "I guess you rate a towel now.". [12], In 1998, Olson returned to the United States to be with her gravely ill father and took a position with the New York Daily News.[1][9]. You can listen to the whole thing here. I immediately got a call from Gayle Reaves, a founder of the Association for Women Journalists. Others, including Michael Timpson, made jokes and egged each other on. TAFOYA: I mean, you get to know every single coach and how he's going to respond to you in TAFOYA: that moment, and you just sort of brace for it. She is an American humorist and sportswriter who now does reviews for Publishers Weekly and writes for a variety of publications, including the Dallas Observer, Fort Worth Star-Telegram, USA Today, and Sports Illustrated. (Lowrance/Getty) NFL boss Roger Goodell was demanding answers Sunday night from. I know they don't know what they're talking about. I said, "Listen, I have been covering this game since I was about two years older than you are so you can just shut it right now.". "A sportswriter, huh? Writing this the other night, tears filled my eyes, and I got that precry phlegm in my throat. It is because it doesn't seem that any reporter should be there. I mean, seeing another adults peen by mistake isnt as bad as, I dont know, stealing someones cooking show, but I digress. Report", Jackie MacMullan reported that the fines were never actually collected from the players. Here's your last question. It was very business-like. I wonder how these female reporters and staff would feel showering and changing with men in their locker room? Sept. 8, 1985 12 AM PT United Press International Sportswriter Donna Balancia had two team officials block her from the New York Giants' locker room after a recent preseason game. However, Briggs thought otherwise. Two Patriots had complained earlier to James Oldham, the team's director of media relations, and to Pat Sullivan, the team's general manager, that they believed Olson was, in the players' words, "a looker," someone who stood around the locker room not interviewing anyone. If I ever dread talking to players now, it is not because I feel that I don't belong there. It's not a place for socialising. But the remarks still hurt. On Sept. 25, 1978, a judge ruled that women should be allowed to enter locker rooms. The Stacks is Deadspin's living archive of great journalism, curated by Bronx Banter's Alex Belth., Sports News Without Fear, Favor or Compromise. I have one of the few jobs where the first thing people ask about is penises. Should women be allowed in locker rooms? Then there was Everson Griffen, an underclassman defensive end who will be a big name next year and eventually on Sundays. SAGAL: So you came back, and you're like, well, I just talked to the coach of the losing team, and he suggested certain things that were anatomically impossible. Locker rooms are overrated. Now Chicago Bears defensive tackle Tommie Harris and linebacker Lance Briggs are the latest to chime-in. I don't like the double-standard we have with male-female divide. But there's a strange sort of comfort in feeling that if they think I'm an idiot, it's probably not because I'm a woman but because I'm just acting like an idiot. I left my stuff in the press box and went downstairs, sandals sticking in last night's gooey beer puddles as usual, as I entered the tunnel to the field. In many ways, I had made a career choice when I walked through that locker room door. She had few female colleagues in sports media to lean on. Follow us on Twitter, @DeadspinStacks, or email us at thestacks@deadspin.com. I talk to the coaches at halftime as they walk in or out of the locker room, and that's always a load of fun especially the losing coach. I like to think I've earned a little respect. That's before they tell me I don't have any business in the locker room. And I know how smartass remarks work, too. I've never been on any campaign to debunk the myth that testicles are somehow inherent to a full understanding of balls. I'd actually never been in an NBA locker room until last winter. Getting the killer quote? I didn't want to be branded as some woman on a crusade. The latest in the sports world, emailed daily. "Is she supposed to be here?" SALIE: Men, that was all men, that was all men, sister. OK, pre-game festivities concluded, I went back up to the press box to start writing some pre-game sidebar. Raffy said, "Hey, he wants to talk to you," pointing to Kenny Rogers. It was the last time I would ever try to interview Reggie. I had started wandering longingly over to the sports department, just to talk about baseball. Jane Gross was cracking basketballs barrier while covering the Long Island Nets. After a while, you just get used to nakedness and its all business. Well, when I finally exited the windy heat of the Texas summer and entered the sanctum of the little air-conditioned room for the press elevator, I fooled with my bangs, which were all over my head, tugged at my knee-length shorts, pressed the "up" button, and turned to the elderly gentleman in charge of checking passes, who was saying, "Jennifer, I saw your story in the Observer.". The other night, there were two girls in the clubhouse after the game. But I couldn't back out. And every once in a while I think about slatted billboards and a daddy's arms. She also was a national columnist for AOL's FanHouse sports website, and a columnist and the first woman in Sporting News' 120-year history to write the magazine's monthly back page. And theres going to be cameras. Answer (1 of 4): After reading Carrie Rickey's answer, I have to say that no one ever gets this story right. And I have shared that with very few people. He had a very reasonable take on how most players are butt booty naked when media members come in: Heres what Id ask, and I used to talk to Jeff McLane about this in Philly. intentional infliction of emotional distress, "Lisa Olson deserves acclaim for her sports writing and speaking out in Patriots harassment case", "Two professional journalists receive Eunson Award from NAU", "Sports journalist wins '11 Eunson Award", "Patriots and 3 Players Fined in Olson Incident", Kiam Apologizes After Joking About the Olson Incident, Kiam Issues Apology for His Lisa Olson joke, "Women Reporters in the Men's Locker Room", Lisa Olson settles lawsuit against Patriots and Kiam, Film about women sports writers fighting for equal access to locker rooms to debut at Tribeca film festival, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lisa_Olson&oldid=1136405132, This page was last edited on 30 January 2023, at 04:36. Here I was in my white flats, some fresh-out-of-college madras plaid skirt, one of those ridiculous spiked hairdos with tails we all wore back then, and probably enough add-a-beads to shame any Alpha Chi. instantly became the news and television cameras swung to them. He joked, he smiled, and he was a great first for me. It reminds me of a debutante waking up in last night's party dress, reeking of beer. I ended up covering minor events full time, even doing the dreaded office score-taking work again. Later that year, Olson and Sam Marchiano were reportedly subjected to a profanity-laced verbal tirade by New York Yankees pitcher David Wells when they approached him at his home to comment on his sudden trade to the Toronto Blue Jays for Roger Clemens. He. I have assimilated to a large degree but probably never will completely. One day, she went unannounced to see an editor of the Boston Herald and asked for a job. I always said modern feminism has nothing to do with equality and this degrading treatment of men proves it. Lisa Olson is an American sports journalist. Couldn't you tell? [Reporters] obviously need you to say some stuff so they can write their articles, said Islanders alternate captain Kyle Okposo, wiping his forehead with an already-drenched shirt. My dream of covering professional baseball seemed further away than ever. The MBL, NBA and NFL followed shortly after, and in 1990 all associations allowed women in the locker rooms. Graduate. SAGAL: Or C, in December, only to buy Christmas gifts for their husbands in the pro shop? My face broke out. Not about naked bodies or about crude remarks but about how they would think I feltand how I intended to respond with confidence, no matter what happened. Instead of saying so-and-so is a good player, and heres a quote, I include some Vines and GIFs to show why hes so good, says Kevin Trahan, who writes for Vice and SB Nation. 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I had to remind myself that I should probably look away. (She had tried to do the same thing at the Boston Globe, but could not get past security.) We got to Frank DeFord's comment at the end. Donna is a good argument for euthanasia. And I make a beeline for my guy that I'm going to interview, and I'm walking up toward him. I asked. Now that is underrated, and the goal of every reporterits what keeps us focused. The bouncing, wide-eyed ball girl who wanted to write about baseball more than anything was gone, abandoned in increments on football fields, at locker room doors, in editors' offices, and on barstools. If necessity of deadlines or getting to someone before another reporter called for it, sure, I'd talk to Oral Roberts's 900-foot Jesus naked, no matter where the crotch fell. [4] The Herald's then owner, News Corporation, offered to transfer her to Sydney, Australia, where she worked for The Daily Telegraph and the Sydney Morning Herald. Its a professional setting, and if the reporter is professional, the whole experience is smooth as silk. I wanted to know these 4 things: 1. I had mentioned Kenny's hair in a story that had yet to even appear in some of the Observer's newsstands. [6] Sullivan observed Olson and determined that she was acting professionally, interviewing Maurice Hurst, but took no other action. I was afraid of the unknown. Api. or "You wrote a good piece, Jenn, but then your headline writers let you down at the end; what does that feel like?" He still didn't answer my question directly. I corresponded with them for another two years before the call finally came. The repetitiveness and intensity of the format can be more frustrating. 1. percykins 7 yr. ago. You take a right turn before you have to walk straight into the naked men and the soap. The interview format is believed to have been popularized around mid-century by Dick Young, a New York Daily News sportswriter. 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