(Adding my own word here: in other words, once a bullet hits the nearly 2000 FPS mark, temporary wound cavity matters) Because thats how many studies there are. When comparing the Glock compacts in both calibers, the 9MM was less bulky, lighter, and easier to conceal. Like the logo of a Very Familiar training range: 1300+ FPS in my Glock 30. Theres no doubt that the .45 ACP is a classic handgun thats not going anywhere in the foreseeable future, but it doesnt outperform the 9mm. No matter what caliber you pick, we got you covered in our Best 9mm Ammo and Best .45 ACP Ammo reviews. He obviously said that the 9 will penetrate better then the .45 thats why the military adopted it and left the .45 in the past. By the time my dad made it to Korea he was already an experienced shooter. Be situationally aware, proficent and accurate with your weapon and the rest will fall into place. That would be 1,2,3,4,5 to stop the threat and the rest to miss with. I have owned both and prefer the 1911A1 style and stopping power. The muzzle is the end of a gun's barrel. This far Left, anti-gun rights organization slants and grossly misrepresents events by omitting vital information from their "articles" and adding bald faced lies. You ask why? .357 SIG has the fastest velocity by far, but is in the middle of the pack with .40 S&W. All the ballistics from all manufacturers, finally in one place. The rest of your post I am 100% onboard with! In fact, since the world began, only 3 people have been:- And after all, spending more time on the range does make you a better marksman. That means 2-3 hits per mag in 9mm vs 1-2 hits in .45 ACP. You cite physics you don't understand and claim that your opinion is fact. I split the difference, .357 Sig gives you the same number of rounds per mag as the .40 but with the ballistics of a .357 magnum. Anyway my grandfather died before his friend could teach me more. In most cases, there's a marked difference in bullet mass and the velocity it's moving. the CarryGun's G2 bullet weighs 135 grains so that it will reach optimal velocity out . I like the Bodyguard, unlike a lot of people. And this is all before we even talk about the lack of concealability of .45 ACP double stack. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://gundata.org/images/fbi-handgun-ballistics.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwjW3I71693mAhVGZM0KHXzxCngQFjAAegQIBRAB&usg=AOvVaw10DVrk4SswQsgAgCh-Cf28 ". Now, I can see all kinds of comments coming from that one, from 'good idea' to 'that's a terrible idea'. The comfort level of a a Colt Lightweight Commander is on par with anything out there, and that design is older than any of us still alive. gear. 45 bullets weigh a ton In a ammo can! Advancements in modern defensive ammo technology have helped the 9mm improve by leaps and bounds over the past 30 years. Testing conditions were 50 degrees Fahrenheit with full sunlight. But the idea that the .45 will stop a man in his tracks no matter where you shoot him is preposterous. ANYONE who says in a civilian encounter they can end it in 3 shots is either a psychopath, a liar, or never been in a SHTF scenario. The 9mm also has a higher muzzle velocity than the .45 ACP because of its lighter bullets. Their testing shows some bullets speed up and slow down and speed up and so on, as they travel up the barrel. For reasons I can't quite explain, this particular powder just didn't get along with that rifle. like when they took away the man stopping .308 caliber M-14 and gave them a stinking .223 varmint round to fight a war with in Vietnam." The time fighting is a poor metric for how wars are won. Photographs and table, Territories Financial Support Center (TFSC), Tribal Financial Management Center (TFMC). As one coroner I heard from said, he's never seen a .357 Magnum leave a body and he's never seen a .44 Magnum stay in one. Everyone has their own confidence level and may believe what people tell them or what they read. Everyone wants to put down the 45 and take up the 9 because they wont take the time and energy to get proficient with the 45, and if you are too weak or candy a## you never will master the 45. The only advantage the mode 59 has is the rear sight to adjustable for both windage and elevation . es mas liviano y desarrolla una velocidad supersonica, su proyectil aerodinamico y la velocidad de boca, le dan un poder de penetracion, pero mientras no toque un organo vital, el adversario seguira disparando, aun herido por la 9 mm. Proponents of the spray say that the spray is more effective, because you don't have to worry about getting out your gun and having the presence of mind to get on target in a few seconds. HAH! [7] [8] [9] As for the tool, I like the Springfield XD series. The cookie is set by crwdcntrl.net to collect statistical data such as the number of visits, average time spent on site, and what pages have been loaded, for targeted advertising. This reaction is recoil. Then buy noise canceling ear muffs for about $20 because if you ever pop one off indoors it will hurt your ears. Yes! 1) by making bigger holes and 2) by making more holes. So much quicker to re-aim, quicker to re-fire and hence more accurate. That's the amount of energy even cautious self-defense experts consider adequate for self-defense. It effectively supplanted the 38 Special for police use thanks in large part to its superior ballistics and functionality in semi-auto firearms. Ballistic coefficient is a measurement of a projectiles ability to resist air drag. The velocity of a projectile is always fastest when it leaves the barrel. From Firearm Wiki: The Internet Gun Encyclopedia, Velocity by Barrel Length of Various Calibers, Firearms Chambered in 9mm (Palmetto State Armory), https://firearmwiki.com/index.php?title=9mm_Velocity_by_Barrel_Length&oldid=1702, About Firearm Wiki: The Internet Gun Encyclopedia. Great article!! I've personally had the experience of using a Thompson .45 submachine gun (A1 army variant) full automatic. The recoil may be heavy for some but since I am a big guy, recoil has never been an issue for me. I'll stay with my 45. and 45LC with one shot kills, both head shots. 45 auto shells cost more too. In other words, when computing energy, you half the mass (as it counts less) and square or exponentially increase the velocity (because it accounts for more). When I went to the former, I added up all the ammo the conducted ballistic gel tests for and averaged them out. 45 ACP Ballistics The debate over the 9mm and .45 ACP is one of the most heated conversations in the firearms community. I'm pretty sure the .50 AE can kill the soul. It is a problem at every agency. You're 100% right the big boy can handle a coyote and a wolf so why waist your time carrying something that cant protect you from the both of them?? Actually, we ALL have a soul, but only TRUE Christians (born again believers) have a spirit. The situation is now dissolved without any bystanders in the background getting injured. A lighter round traveling faster than a heavy round, if the difference is substantial enough, will carry similar energy. I load for accuracy which to me is far more important. Considering that ballistics and expansion have increased for all calibers I like the 45 . Does it create better expansion or significant penetration? One or two will stand out. Less 'intent' to kill when LEO show up to take your statement and you're less likely to injure a family member 3 rooms away! He also has his .40, but he finally switched to 9mm for carry after squealing about the price of ammo (I chuckled!). Gun laws are different in different states. This cookie is used to keep track on user informations and reports it to Alexa analytics service. If someone wants to open carry (which I personally discourage) the XDM appears rather intimidating and is quite accurate in calm hands. The fastest muzzle velocity of a commercially produced round comes from .220 Swift and it was clocked in at 4,665 fps. The Lehigh Defense 70gr HERO loading exited the muzzle at a staggering average of 1784fps from the G34 and only lost 234pfs going down to the minute G43, which works out to only 15% loss. TL after me had 116 CQK, and TL after him had over 40 (and a posthumous MOH). These points are from my personal observations as an Army Ranger, Police SWAT Commander, Private Military Contractor, and firearms instructor - no disrespect intended to the women in uniform. Having said that, in my humble opinion, I prefer the big slow moving .45. I realize these instances are rare but one things for sure i can cut a target in half with rapid shots so easily with a 1022 because of zero recoil i think i could shoot 4 rounds to 1 outta my 45. But if both of these two are more than your are able to shoot comfortably, consider the 380. Kinetic energy. But apples to apples the 45 will always be a superior round. New powders and more advanced bullet designs used only work for the 9mm not 45 acp or 40 S&W? Both (roughly!) I may be considered old and not moving with the new trends, and all is good and dandy with the 9 mm and all the new ammo development, but if the .45 was good to stop the japs and the Krouts, in my book it is good to stop anyone who wants to harm me or my family. And by that time I lost interest in learning more. https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/blog/the-statistically-perfect-gunfight/ He noted that the wall was splattered with not just blood, but flesh and bone. Muzzle Energy Calculation You can calculate kinetic energy using the classic formula you memorized in Physics class. I agree with the .45 recoil being overblown. On his last visit I shot his personal carry 45, and compared it with my Sig 320. Corresponding energies ranged from 228 ft-lbs to 345 ft-lbs. But the .45 Auto does not have the power you are claiming it has. I've owned & fired both repeatable over the years. Ask yourself - if you had to be shot once and you got a choice of caliber, would you choose 9mm or 45? When did this stop being about the two rounds up for discussion? When it happens your mind will likely go blank. They had a narcotic in them to keep them advancing until they expired. Muzzle velocity is the speed of the bullet as once it leaves the barrel. Damn good question and I have wondered this myself. It squirts so much flame out the sides it would scare an attacker half to death. Considering a switch. The other point is shoot someone in the hand with a 9 he drop his gun shoot them with a 45 they will drop their hand. back in 1971, couple years ago! I had the only 45. Americans note that Europeans have small countries with a central government each, whereas the US is a country thousands of miles across with 367 million people, and a ton of different states. In dry practice, make it a habit to take a step to the left or right as the draw is occurring. Not that a low rent trash bag would be wearing a vest if he decides to break in your casa but with the cost of bullet resistant vests getting cheaper and cheaper any things possible. pros y contras, el 9mm. Not in California and some other states that stop you a 10 rounds mags. Not to mention, the 9mm brings less recoil, making it an easier gun to handle especially for beginners. Center mass Shot placement. I bought it for my wife close to 40 years ago, then she decided not to shoot anymore, sad and not so safe. lbs. Loved the part about the advancements in ammunition. LEOs have completely different considerations. Fast enough to hit your target and put it down. What may look like running away to someone not involved, might loot a lot more moving to cover from someone getting, or anticipating getting, shot at. When a bullet it traveling at a faster rate, it will not drop as quickly. Knock down power is vague, because it doesnt exist. They obviously apply to other calibers as well. One of the GREAT things about FIREARMS in AMERICA is VARIETY!! Add in the big, fat, slow, it would seem the only advantage of a 45 is if the target is in the room with you. or 38 & 45 both. No way in hell can the 9mm possibly ever match the .45, or even the .40 S&W, at stopping people. About 7 inches. a G43 to an AR15 fight. What the USA needs is a firearms amnesty where everybody just gives their guns back to be melted. A 7" barrel with a 7" suppressor would still give an overall length of 14 inches, so going up to 10" for a little extra velocity would put you at just about 17" with a suppressor, which is still going to handle better than a 16" barrel, along with the benefits of being suppressed. Click here to learn about more handgun calibers. Statistically this is a dead heat and well within any reasonable margin of error; but remember, the 9mm and .45 ACP wound channels are essentially the same in size, so what is the difference? What We Use This is a debate that will go on as long as there are those who don't want to accept the laws of physics. Karl, youve clearly done no ballistics research and are relying entirely on anecdotes and your own experience. While predominantly utilized in semi-automatic handguns, AR-15s chambered for 9mm are popular, and 9mm revolvers are not an uncommon thing either. Energy is a square of velocity. Curious comment. I myself started out carrying a 22.lr handgun because it was what I shot since I was a kid. LockA locked padlock This first is 9mm Trajectory vs .40 S&W Trajectory and the second is the Muzzle Velocity differences between the different barrel lengths when shooting the same standard ammunition. The FBI employs some smart people. Myself Youve shot hundreds of people with both 45ACP and 9mm under exacting reproducible scientific conditions ? I agree the best caliber for you is the one that you shoot the best . For self defense close or far away. My Walther PQ 45 has a 12+1 capacity and incredible accuracy. Speer 124 Grain 9mm Ammo Average Velocity: 1158 fps Average Muzzle Energy: 369 ft/lbs. However breaking the use of the bullet is to protect yourself. 20-30% really isn't that bad. Apart from the .22lr, I would consider using any of them for self-defense. Subscribe to Pew Pew Tactical's sales and deals email. Velocity / Muzzle Energy Test Results. As a retired LEO during the transition to semi-auto in the 80s, what is too politically incorrect and never mentioned is more females and smaller statured people entered the military and law enforcement. Then the spray and pray method was adopted. Plus, law enforcement, judges, and the average person usually see revolvers as less threatening than a high capacity auto-loader. Its essentially a 9mm magnum. He probably also thought that a .22 LR will bounce around inside the rib cage. When I shoot a Glock 19 defensively I am shooting a stream of 3-5 shots which land in roughly a 2 1/2" circle. I have both and like them both. Personally I like them all! (All listings are fps). The main argument is basically that once a threat a stopped, it can't really become more stopped. I own both 9 and 45 because I enjoy both and in a shtf both will be needed. Thats half an in bigger then the 9mm? Were now getting into some fairly heavy physics, but as a shooter, and especially a hunter, you need to remember that a bullet will slow downrange. This is because larger bullets require more energy to be launched at a high speed. Look up ballistics tests 9mm eats as much ballistics gel as a 45. just stick to a pistol and out to a max of 16 P.C.C. And stay in touch with newsletters of our best articles on techniques, guns, & gear. For more than 30 years, the Beretta M9 and M9A1 have been the standard sidearm of the US Army, Navy, Air Force, and Marine Corps. So muzzle energy is certainly real and a consideration; however, if hit in the eye with a .22LR versus hit in the arm with a 45 ACP means anything, worry about aiming over power. Weve got a dedicated section for the AR-15 here. For resources, I recommend Rory Miller as he dedicated a chapter in his book to the freeze, Marc MacYoung how to avoid violence in general, and Tim Larkin. I will always favor 45 Acp over 9mm. Comparisons of muzzle velocities of the 4-inch pistol and the 16.5-inch carbine revealed only a 6 percent increase in velocity with the carbine; any muzzle velocity gain depends on the powder's burning characteristics. If you are choosing the 9mm simply because of capacity, you might want to also consider the FN Herstal FNX-45. Will still have a long-range, full length rifle or carbine slung over my shoulder tooWhy compromise when it comes down to multiple enemies wanting you dead or wanting to taste your brain? And because 9mm ammo is so relatively inexpensive, it permits its shooter to practice longer and more often. 4. The FBI report made it clear that the more consistent accuracy of 9mm in the hands of their less experienced shooters was a factor in their returning to 9mm as their standard handgun caliber. The cookie is used to store the user consent for the cookies in the category "Performance". Don't be so quick to kill your brother just because his opinion is different than yours . Well written, and no trash talking, rare in the gun world. From the days of the trusty Colt M1911 to modern .45 caliber handguns like the Glock G21 and the Sig Sauer P220, the .45 ACP has always been one of the most reliable calibers on the market. This is a valuable consideration to those who want one load across the board for their carry gun and duty rig. Interesting. Just a thought. If he hits you, its going to hurt. Remember, pride cometh before the fall . Soul people go to hell. Weve really missed you since 2016!). Everyone I know who carries a 9 mm including most LE officers use +P ammo. I'm not an expert on injuries caused by ammo though. We measured the velocity for all 40 rounds using a Competition Dynamics Prochrono chronograph placed 10 feet away from the muzzle. Walk away This is where accuracy matters. Butthis makes it tricky for noobs to navigate. Interestingly, the 9x19mm rounds generally produce higher muzzle energy which, as we all know from Newton's 3rd Law, produces an equal and opposite reaction. Youtube - Track the views of embedded videos. Most people I know use hollow points as they tend to have less penetration through walls and the human body but leave aone nasty show stopping wound What is a "safer" 9mm ammo for home protection, one with similar (or if possible less) penetration risk vs. the average .45 ammo? I don't own a .45 (except a Pietta .45 Long Colt cowboy gun I target shoot in the mountains- I love it), but my son does have a couple of 1911's which he loves and says they are fairly easy to conceal carry. Try firing one off indoors in the dark with no ear protection. A DOE would show interactions between variables that are more significant than a single variable alone. What miffed me most about this test was that the gains across barrel lengths were essentially predictable. When I asked them why .they said it was because they didn't make a 46. With boxes of 9mm Luger rounds being 30% to 40% cheaper than .45 ACP ammo, increased range time isnt going to break your budget. BS! Also, the barrel length and quality of the propellant significantly affects the speed of the bullet. The .45 was becoming a dinasaur. The Ruger LC380 is her favorite. You follow the directions on the can. 15 years ago, a 210 or 215 was something to be embarrassed about. Would you rather be holding a 45 or a 9mm? Luger presented his new round to both Great Britain and the U.S. before it was adopted by the Imperial German Navy in 1904 and the German Army four years later. If you are in a do or die situation and there is still one bad guy left you need to put down, and you only have one bullet left in your mag. However, physics will not be denied, and .45 ACP, while slower, is heavier, and will therefore break bones that 9mm would otherwise deflect off of. If they are still coming you have to be able to keep shooting. I personally know of more more people surviving being shot with a 9 than a 45acp. I shoot one shot with a 45 and the muzzle blast brings the barrel up sometimes cocked sideways some making it slow and difficult getting the gun back on target. And, lighter projectiles shed velocity faster than heavier projectiles. In .45 acp, with 230 grain target rounds we started shooting the same targets we shot with the 9mm and 38 spl, well guess what I consider 45acp and 9mm in the same class. With half coming in under 400 ft lb. Unless you through simple logic out the window, the 45 does more damage. 5.7mm FN 30 Grain SS195LF Jacketed Hollow Point Average muzzle velocity: 2162 fps Average muzzle energy: 311 ft/lbs. Just ask yourself one question. We'll cover the pros & cons of 9mm vs .45 ACP, from stopping power to expansion, accuracy, price, capacity, and more. He now carries a S&W M&P Shield like mine, or a Glock 19. If I saw a bear close that wasn't moving, I'd get the spray out and slowly back off, and use it if he started coming my way. I think people should think about not only the effects on an intruder but also how they will feel after they have shot someone. Subsonic for a bullet is slow . The carbine barrel length does not improve the interior, exterior, or terminal ballistics of many popular hollowpoints at all, but the carbine barrel length does push some 9mm hollowpoints into the .357 Magnum bracket in terms of velocity, energy, wound ballistics, and tactical penetration. what do you expect from them? Look, ultimately both rounds have very similar energy. "Well, this might rock your world but Id recommend getting one of each." I had been on the fence regarding 9mm and .45ACP for a long time, then I purchased a couple of different 9mm semi-autos for carry over a few years, with .380 for backup. If not, you may shot again but not before. Grip safety with chambered indicator. The cookie is used to store the user consent for the cookies in the category "Analytics". "ANY GUN will do!! Whilst a Glock 19 does have more capacity than a Glock 30, they are almost identical in size, with only 5 rounds difference in standard magazine capacities. Knock down power is quantifiable by the Taylor Knock Down Index. Measurements are the opposite of vague . I don't care what you carry, it being a 22lr or 50AE, just make sure you carry something. That has nothing to do with WWII and everything to do with people not remembering or even wanting reminders of our past to keep them on the right path. Ad & Review Requests Now I see these new cops high fiving each other for passing. This is a 9mm Luger ballistics chart (external) generated using our ballistic trajectory calculator. With bigger bores, you need only worry about the reliability of your hollow point expanding (after going through material) and going 1012 inches or so in the body to avoid over/under-penetration. 3. 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